From a friend who does Mac development:

Cory

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Apple did some cool things with Java/Cocoa I think but unfortunately
going down that road is something of a dead end at this point.  As of
10.4 (Tiger) Apple dropped further development on the Java bridge
that allows for Cocoa-Java development.  You can still use it to
write for 10.3 & earlier but 10.4 and future additions are
unavailable to Java.  I'm a little disappointed by this in terms of
the lack of draw to OS X for Java developers but it doesn't really
affect me directly.

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/
LanguageIntegration/index.html

Of course you can still program straight Java for OS X.  As an end
user, nine times out of ten I tend to prefer an app written in Cocoa
over Pure Java and tend to prefer Obj-C over Cocoa-Java.  They seem
to run faster and have a more consistent user experience than Java
apps.  Overall its just the native language of OS X and seems to work
the best.

I have personally loved Cocoa.  If I can learn it as my first "non-
web" language, someone with a Java background should have very little
trouble picking it up quickly.  I believe (though don't quote me on
this as I'm not a Java guy) that you can develop in Obj-C and somehow
toss Java into the mix if there is something specific that you need,
say a class you've had laying around and want to re-use.  It just
wont be able to access any 10.4 or later Cocoa-features itself, but I
don't see any problem with that code handing something off to an Obj-
C class for further use.  Like I said though I've never tried so that
could be a lie from the pit of hades for all I know.  I've compiled
Obj-C, C, C++, and a few other odds & ends, but never really mixed
them together & compiled the stew.

Cliff Pruitt
Crayon Cowboy
Sharp Shootin' Media Marketing™

http://www.crayoncowboy.com
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On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Cory Foy wrote:

> What do you think? Any insights I could forward back to the list?
>
> Cory





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