> There are those who have learned "web language[s]" first....
> I feel old now...
> Am I now doomed to start sounding like one of those people who
> bring up punch cards in any technical conversation where something
> is deemed to be needlessly difficult?
Are you old enough to have actually written code on punch cards?
Believe it or not, it was actually a required class when I was in
"Kindness knows no shame" -- S. Wonder
-- michael at czeiszperger dot org, Chapel Hill, NC