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> From: Juglist-bounces@trij... > [mailto:Juglist-bounces@trij...] On Behalf Of Michael Czeiszperger
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:57 PM
> To: Research Triangle Java User's Group mailing list.
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [Juglist] Java and Cocoa]]
> On Aug 1, 2005, at 11:43 AM, acoliver@jbos... wrote:
> > There are those who have learned "web language[s]" first....
> > I feel old now...
> > Am I now doomed to start sounding like one of those people who
> > bring up punch cards in any technical conversation where something
> > is deemed to be needlessly difficult?
> Are you old enough to have actually written code on punch cards?
> Believe it or not, it was actually a required class when I was in
My mentor at IBM (John O'Keefe, brilliant guy) told me stories of working on a machine with 8 lights and 8 buttons. Now that's a real UI! :) I still remember the look of distinct disappointment when I told him I couldn't do hex based math in my head.