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     1. 02:40 AM - Re: Radio Static  (Gilles Thesee)
     2. 04:03 AM - N2D First Flight  (rd2@even...)
     3. 08:34 AM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (John Schroeder)
     4. 08:56 AM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (Dave Morris \)
     5. 09:53 AM - Re: N2D First Flight  (Jerry2DT@aol....)
     6. 11:07 AM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     7. 11:35 AM - Wire Label Printers  (Ron)
     8. 11:57 AM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (Dave Morris \)
     9. 12:30 PM - Re: Crimper for large (AWG 10-6) open barrel terminals  (Jon Goguen)
    10. 12:54 PM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (Mickey Coggins)
    11. 12:57 PM - Z-14 FADEC Version Question  (Danny L. Smith)
    12. 01:16 PM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    13. 02:07 PM - Re: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?  (Richard E. Tasker)
    14. 03:06 PM - Carrier Only Problem  (Charlie Brame)
    15. 03:38 PM - Re: Z-14 FADEC Version Question  (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    16. 06:13 PM - Re: Carrier Only Problem  (Bill Maxwell)
    17. 06:46 PM - Re: Carrier Only Problem  (Rodney Dunham)
    18. 07:17 PM - Re: Carrier Only Problem  (Charlie England)
    19. 07:32 PM - Re: Crimper for large (AWG 10-6) open barrel terminals  (Ken)
    20. 08:22 PM - Re: Carrier Only Problem  (Deene Ogden)
    21. 08:32 PM - Re: Carrier Only Problem  (Brian Lloyd)
    22. 09:02 PM - Re: Carrier Only Problem  (Matt Prather)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 02:40:52 AM PST US
From: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-g...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Radio Static

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-g...>

John Totten a crit :

>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Totten <john@tott...>
>
>
>Does anyone know how to adjust the auto-squelch on the
>Garmin 430? I imagine this needs a Service Login and
>password?
>
>JohnT
>
>
>  
>

John,

If you don't have it the  430 manual,  you can see

http://contrails.free.fr/gps_manuels.php


FWIW,
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr












________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 04:03:44 AM PST US
From: rd2@even...
Subject: AeroElectric-List: N2D First Flight

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@even...

Congratulations, Mark!

Regards
Rumen

do not archive














________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 08:34:08 AM PST US
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
From: "John Schroeder" <jschroeder@peri...>

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" <jschroeder@peri...>

Bob-

In an informal session in Nashville a few years ago, you gave me this same  
advice. I returned home I did just as you outlined below. It saved eons of  
grief and the whole system works like a champ. Looking for menu items or  
icons is a lot harder and more time consuming than typing one or two  
letters to get the tool you need.

Cheers,

John Schroeder
Do not Archive.


>
>      On the CAD side, consider that all CAD programs have hundreds
>      to thousands of commands that every tutorial writer feels obligated
>      to teach.  Years ago I discovered an AutoCAD feature that allows
>      one to replace the extended, full word command set with simple
>      abbreviated strings of your choice.  I began to craft my own
>      command overlay file which ended up looking like this:
>
> AR,        *ARRAY
> B,         *BLOCK
> WB,        *WRITEBLOCK
> BR,        *BREAK
> CI,        *CIRCLE
> C,         *CHANGE
> CH,        *CHAMFER
> CO,        *COPY
> D,         *DIMSTYLE
> DI,        *DIST
> DO,        *DONUT
> DT,        *DTEXT
> E,         *ERASE
> ED,        *DDEDIT
> EL,        *ELLIPSE
> XT,        *EXTEND
> EXIT,      *QUIT
> F,         *FILLET
> H,         *HATCH
> I,         *INSERT
> IP,        *ISOPLANE
> L,         *LINE
> LA,        *LAYER
> LI,        *LIST
> LT,        *LINETYPE
> M,         *MOVE
> MI,        *MIRROR
> OF,        *OFFSET
> OS,        *OSNAP
> P,         *PAN
> PE,        *PEDIT
> PL,        *PLINE
> PG,       *POLYGON
> P,        *PURGE
> R,         *REDRAW
> RG,        *REGEN
> RT,       *RECTANGLE
> REN        *RENAME
> RO,        *ROTATE
> S,         *STRETCH
> SC,        *SCALE
> SCR,       *SCRIPT
> T,        *TRIM
> V,         *VIEW
> XP,         *EXPLODE
> Z,         *ZOOM
>
>       There are 46 AutoCAD commands in this list. Two things happened
>       when, after several years, I looked at the list. It told me
>       that out of thousands of things AutoCAD will do, less
>       than 50 of those commands took care of 99% of my use of AutoCAD.
>       In fact, probably half that list covers 98%, the rest covers 1.9%
>       and from time to time (0.1%) I have to dig out some new feature
>       in AutoCAD.
>
>       The list also represented a suggested study guide for new users.
>       Get out the tutorial for your particular CAD program and learn
>       the functions that parallel the list above. I suspect you too
>       will discover that taming the mighty beast CAD is not
>       as great a task as the tutorials would suggest.
>
>       Bob . . .
>
>



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________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 08:56:37 AM PST US
From: "Dave Morris \"BigD\"" <BigD@Dave...>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\"" <BigD@Dave...>

I'll make my recommendation again, for those who are newbies at this and
want a simple schematic drawing program, go to http://www.capilano.com/ and
download Designworks LITE and if you like it, pay $39.95.  It will do what
you need to do and without memorizing commands or trying to make a program
like Visio or Paint do something it was never designed to do.

Dave Morris

At 09:22 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wern...>
>
>If they are already in digital format you can import them as line
>drawings, or draw them your self and make them a template for Visio, and
>then this will give you the ability to use the other ones as well. But
>the original question from the poster was not to use Aeroelectric
>symbols, rather he was looking for an easy way to make schematics, even
>to the point of using paint, which would be a real painful process,
>especially when Visio already has default electrical schematic
>templates.
>Hope this helps
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
>Kenneth Melvin
>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:54 PM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kenneth Melvin
><melvinke@dire...>
>
>Visio is useful for this purpose, but please explain the process by
>which
>Aeroelectric symbols can be introduced into Visio templates.
>Kenneth Melvin
>Hillsboro, OR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
>Lloyd,
>Daniel R.
>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>--> <LloydDR@wern...>
>
>The easiest way to do this is to get a copy of Microsoft Visio, it is
>part
>of the office suite, and your work probably has it for you to use there.
>They have all of the templates available in there and you can download
>additional ones from the website for it. Visio is the easiest way to
>make
>schematics, flowcharts, etc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Jerry
>Grimmonpre
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:15 PM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre"
><jerry@mc.n...>
>
>Hi All,
>I've got an idea I'd like to have comments on.  This will require
>AutoCad or
>TurboCad skills which I don't have and not interested in learning.  I
>first
>need the help of someone who can copy Bob's schematic symbols and
>somehow
>place them on a Print program.  It may take a couple pages of Print to
>acommodate all the symbols.  Reformat the Print symbols to JPG to reduce
>the
>file size.  Then make these symbols available, with a URL, to those who
>want
>to use them for their schematic.  If this is possible, those of us
>drawing
>schematics could use Paint to create their schematic by simple
>Copy/Paste
>methods.  It may be a little crude but who cares if the schematic
>portrays
>accurately the flow of electrons and the symbols are spot-on accurate!?
>I
>have no clue if this is possible but I know there are some very sharp
>and
>creative souls on this list who will find a way, if there is one.
>Regards ...
>Jerry Grimmonpre'
>
>














________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 09:53:26 AM PST US
From: Jerry2DT@aol....
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: N2D First Flight

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol....


Mark,

Beautiful! ...and congratulations!! You've just re-inspired me, so out to  
the garage I go...

Jerry Cochran

In a message dated 2/20/2006 12:06:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
aeroelectric-list-digest@matr... writes:

Subject:  AeroElectric-List: N2D First Flight
From: Mark E Navratil  <czechsix@juno...>

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by:  Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno...>

Guys, most if not all of you  have already seen my first flight report on
Doug Reeves' or Van's websites,  just in case anybody hasn't I thought I'd
copy it to the various Lists I've  followed over the past 6 years.  
















________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 11:07:56 AM PST US
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wern...>

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wern...>

Dave
Visio not designed to draw? Vision is on of the best flow chart,
diagramming programs out there, and its use could not be easier. Drag
and drop with built in templates, multiple layers, labeling, colors, and
the ability to link diagrams, so that when you move one object the
connecting line goes with it, could not be easier. Plus an interface
that most people are familiar with, because it is integrated with the
office suite, and you can demo it for free.
Don't see how it could be easier.
Just my .02
Dan
RV-10 40269
Do not archive

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Dave
Morris "BigD"
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\""
<BigD@Dave...>

I'll make my recommendation again, for those who are newbies at this and

want a simple schematic drawing program, go to http://www.capilano.com/
and
download Designworks LITE and if you like it, pay $39.95.  It will do
what
you need to do and without memorizing commands or trying to make a
program
like Visio or Paint do something it was never designed to do.

Dave Morris

At 09:22 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wern...>
>
>If they are already in digital format you can import them as line
>drawings, or draw them your self and make them a template for Visio,
and
>then this will give you the ability to use the other ones as well. But
>the original question from the poster was not to use Aeroelectric
>symbols, rather he was looking for an easy way to make schematics, even
>to the point of using paint, which would be a real painful process,
>especially when Visio already has default electrical schematic
>templates.
>Hope this helps
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
>Kenneth Melvin
>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:54 PM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kenneth Melvin
><melvinke@dire...>
>
>Visio is useful for this purpose, but please explain the process by
>which
>Aeroelectric symbols can be introduced into Visio templates.
>Kenneth Melvin
>Hillsboro, OR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
>Lloyd,
>Daniel R.
>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>--> <LloydDR@wern...>
>
>The easiest way to do this is to get a copy of Microsoft Visio, it is
>part
>of the office suite, and your work probably has it for you to use
there.
>They have all of the templates available in there and you can download
>additional ones from the website for it. Visio is the easiest way to
>make
>schematics, flowcharts, etc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
Jerry
>Grimmonpre
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:15 PM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre"
><jerry@mc.n...>
>
>Hi All,
>I've got an idea I'd like to have comments on.  This will require
>AutoCad or
>TurboCad skills which I don't have and not interested in learning.  I
>first
>need the help of someone who can copy Bob's schematic symbols and
>somehow
>place them on a Print program.  It may take a couple pages of Print to
>acommodate all the symbols.  Reformat the Print symbols to JPG to
reduce
>the
>file size.  Then make these symbols available, with a URL, to those who
>want
>to use them for their schematic.  If this is possible, those of us
>drawing
>schematics could use Paint to create their schematic by simple
>Copy/Paste
>methods.  It may be a little crude but who cares if the schematic
>portrays
>accurately the flow of electrons and the symbols are spot-on accurate!?
>I
>have no clue if this is possible but I know there are some very sharp
>and
>creative souls on this list who will find a way, if there is one.
>Regards ...
>Jerry Grimmonpre'
>
>






























________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 11:35:58 AM PST US
From: "Ron" <rondefly@rtri...>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wire Label Printers

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron" <rondefly@rtri...>

I found on ebay the Dymo Pro 5000 brand new for 80.00. Here are the specs.
These things will even do shrink tube labeling.

. Meets ANSI/TIA/EIA-606-A labeling standards.

. "Hot keys" provide automatic label formatting for wires and cables,
terminal blocks, patch panels, vertical and fixed length labeling.

. Advanced wire gauge function. Just select the wire gauge or cable size and
RhinoPRO sets up the label precisely.

. Features common datacom and electrical symbols: ohm, ground, phone, data
and fax

. Prints up to 12 characters for vertical wraps.

. Automatically underlines 6's and 9's for wire and cable marking.

. Smear-proof thermal printing resists solvents, heat and moisture.

. Ten-label memory for fast results.

. Prints Code 39 and Code 128 bar codes

. Prints five text sizes.

. Includes impact-resistant rubber bumper.

. Automatic shut-off saves battery life.

. Bright yellow color means this tool won't get lost.

. Fits in the palm of your hand.

. Uses 6 AA batteries (not included).

. Weighs just over 1 lb.

. Package includes one RhinoPRO 5000 with impact-resistant bumper, one
RhinoPRO 3/4" (19 mm) flexible nylon label cassette, User Manual.





Ron Triano

http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page10.html
















________________________________  Message 8  _____________________________________


Time: 11:57:36 AM PST US
From: "Dave Morris \"BigD\"" <BigD@Dave...>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\"" <BigD@Dave...>

Yes, I love Visio for what it does well.  (I'm a consultant, so Visio is my
second best friend.)  I've used the Technical edition and the Professional
edition to draw everything from flowcharts to network diagrams to
floorplans.  And I've been using it since way before Microsoft "absorbed"
it.  But for schematics, it's not as good as DesignWorks Lite.  I could be
wrong, but I don't think there is a Visio edition for $39.95 that will do
schematics and includes a component library.  If it can do something like
this:
http://www.davemorris.com/Photos/Dragonfly%20Electrical/N75UP-Schematic-June2005.pdf
please let me know, because I'll be glad to switch.

Dave Morris


At 01:03 PM 2/20/2006, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wern...>
>
>Dave
>Visio not designed to draw? Vision is on of the best flow chart,
>diagramming programs out there, and its use could not be easier. Drag
>and drop with built in templates, multiple layers, labeling, colors, and
>the ability to link diagrams, so that when you move one object the
>connecting line goes with it, could not be easier. Plus an interface
>that most people are familiar with, because it is integrated with the
>office suite, and you can demo it for free.
>Don't see how it could be easier.
>Just my .02
>Dan
>RV-10 40269
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Dave
>Morris "BigD"
>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:55 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\""
><BigD@Dave...>
>
>I'll make my recommendation again, for those who are newbies at this and
>
>want a simple schematic drawing program, go to http://www.capilano.com/
>and
>download Designworks LITE and if you like it, pay $39.95.  It will do
>what
>you need to do and without memorizing commands or trying to make a
>program
>like Visio or Paint do something it was never designed to do.
>
>Dave Morris
>
>At 09:22 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> ><LloydDR@wern...>
> >
> >If they are already in digital format you can import them as line
> >drawings, or draw them your self and make them a template for Visio,
>and
> >then this will give you the ability to use the other ones as well. But
> >the original question from the poster was not to use Aeroelectric
> >symbols, rather he was looking for an easy way to make schematics, even
> >to the point of using paint, which would be a real painful process,
> >especially when Visio already has default electrical schematic
> >templates.
> >Hope this helps
> >Dan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
> >Kenneth Melvin
> >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:54 PM
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
> >Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kenneth Melvin
> ><melvinke@dire...>
> >
> >Visio is useful for this purpose, but please explain the process by
> >which
> >Aeroelectric symbols can be introduced into Visio templates.
> >Kenneth Melvin
> >Hillsboro, OR
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
> >Lloyd,
> >Daniel R.
> >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:12 AM
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
> >Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> >--> <LloydDR@wern...>
> >
> >The easiest way to do this is to get a copy of Microsoft Visio, it is
> >part
> >of the office suite, and your work probably has it for you to use
>there.
> >They have all of the templates available in there and you can download
> >additional ones from the website for it. Visio is the easiest way to
> >make
> >schematics, flowcharts, etc
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
>Jerry
> >Grimmonpre
> >Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:15 PM
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
> >Subject: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre"
> ><jerry@mc.n...>
> >
> >Hi All,
> >I've got an idea I'd like to have comments on.  This will require
> >AutoCad or
> >TurboCad skills which I don't have and not interested in learning.  I
> >first
> >need the help of someone who can copy Bob's schematic symbols and
> >somehow
> >place them on a Print program.  It may take a couple pages of Print to
> >acommodate all the symbols.  Reformat the Print symbols to JPG to
>reduce
> >the
> >file size.  Then make these symbols available, with a URL, to those who
> >want
> >to use them for their schematic.  If this is possible, those of us
> >drawing
> >schematics could use Paint to create their schematic by simple
> >Copy/Paste
> >methods.  It may be a little crude but who cares if the schematic
> >portrays
> >accurately the flow of electrons and the symbols are spot-on accurate!?
> >I
> >have no clue if this is possible but I know there are some very sharp
> >and
> >creative souls on this list who will find a way, if there is one.
> >Regards ...
> >Jerry Grimmonpre'
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________________________________  Message 9  _____________________________________


Time: 12:30:43 PM PST US
From: Jon Goguen <jon.goguen@umas...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crimper for large (AWG 10-6) open     barrel terminals

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jon Goguen <jon.goguen@umas...>

I have several uses in mind.  The most demanding is as an OV disconnect
for the B lead of a 40 amp IR ND alternator, with an 8 or 6 AWG wire.  
The contacts in the relay are rated for 100,000 cycles at  70 amps/14
volts.  Do you have some reason to believe that fast-on style
connectors don't scale up well to the 0.375 size and won't meet the
manufacturers specs on these relays with respect to current rating?  
They would be installed as part of an integrated connector that
includes all four terminals, and would be provided with proper wire
support.  I like them because they're very light, very cheap, and
replaceable on a plug-in basis.

Jon

Jon Goguen
jon.goguen@umas...
Central Massachusetts
Kitfox Series V Rotax 912S / N456JG (reserved)
Complete except for electrics and avionics

"Nothing worth knowing can be understood by the human mind"
--Woody Allen
On Feb 18, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III barrel terminals
wrote:

> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
> <nuckollsr@cox....>   barrel terminals
>
> At 07:04 PM 2/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Goguen, Jon"
>> <Jon.Goguen@umas...>
>>
>> Yes, they're fast-on style.  They fit the high-current terminals on
>> 70 amp
>> automotive relays.
>>
>> Jon
>
>    What system, how much current and what wire sizes do you
>    anticipate running through these terminals?
>
>    Bob . . .
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr... on behalf of
>> Robert L.
>> Nuckolls, III
>> Sent: Thu 2/16/2006 7:15 PM
>> To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crimper for large (AWG 10-6) open  
>> barrel
>> terminals
>>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
>> <nuckollsr@cox....>   barrel terminals
>>
>> At 04:09 PM 2/16/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jon Goguen
>> <jon.goguen@umas...>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Looking for a crimper that will handle large open barrel female
>>> terminals that fit 0.375" quck-connect males.  These are the only
>>> 0.375
>>> quick connect females I have been able to find.  I could use closed
>>> barrel insulated or uninsulated females if anybody can tell me where
>>> to
>>> get them.
>>
>>     Are these a "fast-on" style connector? For 6AWG wire?
>>     Where do you plan to use them?
>>
>>     Bob . . .
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>> --
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>         Bob . . .
>
>
>       < What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
>       < the authority which determines whether there can be   >
>       < debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of   >
>       < scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests     >
>       < with experiment.                                      >
>       <                            --Lawrence M. Krauss       >
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________________________________  Message 10  ____________________________________


Time: 12:54:46 PM PST US
From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8....>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8....>

I did my wiring diagram with Visio.

http://www.rv8.ch/images/articles/20041121101637759_1_original.gif

Visio is a great program as you know, but it costs *a lot* more
than 40 bucks.  Luckily I had a copy it from a previous life so I
didn't have to pay for it myself.

I tried DesignWorks Lite, hoping it could replace Visio, but I
think it is targeted towards people that know something about
electricity - that ain't me.  I couldn't figure out how to draw
a line, so I went back to Visio.  I just don't have the time to
invest to learn a new CAD program right now, since I only use
it from time to time.  For those of you who don't know Visio
or DesignWorks (or any of the other nice drawing packages out
there) I'd go with something cheap.

Mickey

Dave Morris "BigD" wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\"" <BigD@Dave...>
>
> Yes, I love Visio for what it does well.  (I'm a consultant, so Visio is my
> second best friend.)  I've used the Technical edition and the Professional
> edition to draw everything from flowcharts to network diagrams to
> floorplans.  And I've been using it since way before Microsoft "absorbed"
> it.  But for schematics, it's not as good as DesignWorks Lite.  I could be
> wrong, but I don't think there is a Visio edition for $39.95 that will do
> schematics and includes a component library.  If it can do something like
> this:
> http://www.davemorris.com/Photos/Dragonfly%20Electrical/N75UP-Schematic-June2005.pdf
> please let me know, because I'll be glad to switch.
>
> Dave Morris
>

--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing


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________________________________  Message 11  ____________________________________


Time: 12:57:37 PM PST US
From: "Danny L. Smith" <dsmit132@bell...>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Z-14 FADEC Version Question

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Danny L. Smith" <dsmit132@bell...>

Bob, Im building an RV-7A with a FADEC engine, one B&C 60A alternator and
two PC-680 batteries. Is there any reason I cant use the Z-14 FADEC Version
and just eliminate the aux. alternator and regulator?
Danny













________________________________  Message 12  ____________________________________


Time: 01:16:17 PM PST US
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wern...>

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wern...>

The new version 2003 Professional offers a whole new type called
electrical engineering and has a couple of hundred different symbols
available as a template, and can import the CAD symbols if you want. I
re-did the drawing you showed in about 10 minutes, of course I did not
have to design it "GRIN", then I linked the objects, and as I move them
around the page the bus moves with them, it also has the ability to do 4
conductor buses, pretty slick.
The demo is free, and most of us have access to it through our
workplace. If you work at a larger company that has a Microsoft select
agreement, the IT shop is allowed to give it to you for home use, most
people do not know this, and most IT departments will not tell you,
because they do not want to support it at home. But become good friends
with an IT guy and you will have access to it.
Or load the demo and try it that way, but make sure to get the 2003 Pro,
because this is the first version to include electrical engineering and
makes it real easy to make schematics.
Dan
  

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Dave
Morris "BigD"
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\""
<BigD@Dave...>

Yes, I love Visio for what it does well.  (I'm a consultant, so Visio is
my
second best friend.)  I've used the Technical edition and the
Professional
edition to draw everything from flowcharts to network diagrams to
floorplans.  And I've been using it since way before Microsoft
"absorbed"
it.  But for schematics, it's not as good as DesignWorks Lite.  I could
be
wrong, but I don't think there is a Visio edition for $39.95 that will
do
schematics and includes a component library.  If it can do something
like
this:
http://www.davemorris.com/Photos/Dragonfly%20Electrical/N75UP-Schematic-
June2005.pdf
please let me know, because I'll be glad to switch.

Dave Morris


At 01:03 PM 2/20/2006, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wern...>
>
>Dave
>Visio not designed to draw? Vision is on of the best flow chart,
>diagramming programs out there, and its use could not be easier. Drag
>and drop with built in templates, multiple layers, labeling, colors,
and
>the ability to link diagrams, so that when you move one object the
>connecting line goes with it, could not be easier. Plus an interface
>that most people are familiar with, because it is integrated with the
>office suite, and you can demo it for free.
>Don't see how it could be easier.
>Just my .02
>Dan
>RV-10 40269
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Dave
>Morris "BigD"
>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:55 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\""
><BigD@Dave...>
>
>I'll make my recommendation again, for those who are newbies at this
and
>
>want a simple schematic drawing program, go to http://www.capilano.com/
>and
>download Designworks LITE and if you like it, pay $39.95.  It will do
>what
>you need to do and without memorizing commands or trying to make a
>program
>like Visio or Paint do something it was never designed to do.
>
>Dave Morris
>
>At 09:22 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> ><LloydDR@wern...>
> >
> >If they are already in digital format you can import them as line
> >drawings, or draw them your self and make them a template for Visio,
>and
> >then this will give you the ability to use the other ones as well.
But
> >the original question from the poster was not to use Aeroelectric
> >symbols, rather he was looking for an easy way to make schematics,
even
> >to the point of using paint, which would be a real painful process,
> >especially when Visio already has default electrical schematic
> >templates.
> >Hope this helps
> >Dan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
> >Kenneth Melvin
> >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:54 PM
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
> >Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kenneth Melvin
> ><melvinke@dire...>
> >
> >Visio is useful for this purpose, but please explain the process by
> >which
> >Aeroelectric symbols can be introduced into Visio templates.
> >Kenneth Melvin
> >Hillsboro, OR
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
> >Lloyd,
> >Daniel R.
> >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:12 AM
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
> >Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> >--> <LloydDR@wern...>
> >
> >The easiest way to do this is to get a copy of Microsoft Visio, it is
> >part
> >of the office suite, and your work probably has it for you to use
>there.
> >They have all of the templates available in there and you can
download
> >additional ones from the website for it. Visio is the easiest way to
> >make
> >schematics, flowcharts, etc
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
>Jerry
> >Grimmonpre
> >Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:15 PM
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matr...
> >Subject: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre"
> ><jerry@mc.n...>
> >
> >Hi All,
> >I've got an idea I'd like to have comments on.  This will require
> >AutoCad or
> >TurboCad skills which I don't have and not interested in learning.  I
> >first
> >need the help of someone who can copy Bob's schematic symbols and
> >somehow
> >place them on a Print program.  It may take a couple pages of Print
to
> >acommodate all the symbols.  Reformat the Print symbols to JPG to
>reduce
> >the
> >file size.  Then make these symbols available, with a URL, to those
who
> >want
> >to use them for their schematic.  If this is possible, those of us
> >drawing
> >schematics could use Paint to create their schematic by simple
> >Copy/Paste
> >methods.  It may be a little crude but who cares if the schematic
> >portrays
> >accurately the flow of electrons and the symbols are spot-on
accurate!?
> >I
> >have no clue if this is possible but I know there are some very sharp
> >and
> >creative souls on this list who will find a way, if there is one.
> >Regards ...
> >Jerry Grimmonpre'
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________________________________  Message 13  ____________________________________


Time: 02:07:52 PM PST US
From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@opto...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Schematic Symbols - An Easier Way?

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@opto...>


Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:

>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wern...>
>
><snip>
>Or load the demo and try it that way, but make sure to get the 2003 Pro,
>because this is the first version to include electrical engineering and
>makes it real easy to make schematics.
>  
>
Maybe it is the first since Micro$oft has owned it, but my version of
Visio Technical 4.0 (1995) came with LOTS of electrical symbols (as well
as mechanical, chemical, petroleum, network, landscaping, home, network,
etc.).

It wasn't as cheap as $39.95, but it used to be a bargain before
Micro$oft bought them.

Dick Tasker

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________________________________  Message 14  ____________________________________


Time: 03:06:19 PM PST US
From: Charlie Brame <chasb@satx...>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Brame <chasb@satx...>

A friend is having radio problems with a new intercom/radio installation.

His bird is equipped with a intercom which appears to work as
advertised. Intercom between cockpits is okay. The mic break level is
easily adjustable using the intercom squelch, and the intercom volume is
adjustable. The comm radio receives very well on all channels. However,
the radio only sends a carrier - no voice, when attempting to transmit.
The carrier is strong and can be heard on a handheld over a half mile
away, but no hint of any voice.

We have eliminated the headset and the intercom, we think. We have
traced mic wires and all appear to be as they should be. The PTT circuit
is apparently working as a carrier is transmitted. Why no voice?

Any suggestions as to where to continue trouble shooting would be appreciated.

Charlie Brame
San Antonio












________________________________  Message 15  ____________________________________


Time: 03:38:49 PM PST US
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox....>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Z-14 FADEC Version Question

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox....>

At 02:56 PM 2/20/2006 -0600, you wrote:

>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Danny L. Smith"
><dsmit132@bell...>
>
>Bob, Im building an RV-7A with a FADEC engine, one B&C 60A alternator and
>two PC-680 batteries. Is there any reason I cant use the Z-14 FADEC Version
>and just eliminate the aux. alternator and regulator?

     What kind of engine? Do you plan a vacuum system?

     Bob . . .













________________________________  Message 16  ____________________________________


Time: 06:13:54 PM PST US
From: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigp...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigp...>

I would think the mic is not being switched from the intercom to the radio
mic input as the ptt is pushed - or at least that would be my diagnostic
starting point.  If that is not the problem I would then suspect the radio
itself.  what radio is it?

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Brame" <chasb@satx...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem


> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Brame <chasb@satx...>
>
> A friend is having radio problems with a new intercom/radio installation.
>
> His bird is equipped with a intercom which appears to work as
> advertised. Intercom between cockpits is okay. The mic break level is
> easily adjustable using the intercom squelch, and the intercom volume is
> adjustable. The comm radio receives very well on all channels. However,
> the radio only sends a carrier - no voice, when attempting to transmit.
> The carrier is strong and can be heard on a handheld over a half mile
> away, but no hint of any voice.
>
> We have eliminated the headset and the intercom, we think. We have
> traced mic wires and all appear to be as they should be. The PTT circuit
> is apparently working as a carrier is transmitted. Why no voice?
>
> Any suggestions as to where to continue trouble shooting would be
> appreciated.
>
> Charlie Brame
> San Antonio
>
>
>













________________________________  Message 17  ____________________________________


Time: 06:46:51 PM PST US
From: "Rodney Dunham" <rdunhamtn@hotm...>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rodney Dunham" <rdunhamtn@hotm...>

Charlie,

I had the same problem when I first installed my radio.

ICOM A200 VHF COM,
Sigtronics 400 series intercom,
Single (center stick) PTT.

I had crossed the co-pilot and pilot mic wires at the panel. Easy enough to
check. Talk into the co-pilot's mic and see if it modulates!

Hope this helps. Do not archive.

Rodney














________________________________  Message 18  ____________________________________


Time: 07:17:04 PM PST US
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bell...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bell...>

Charlie Brame wrote:

>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Brame <chasb@satx...>
>
>A friend is having radio problems with a new intercom/radio installation.
>
>His bird is equipped with a intercom which appears to work as
>advertised. Intercom between cockpits is okay. The mic break level is
>easily adjustable using the intercom squelch, and the intercom volume is
>adjustable. The comm radio receives very well on all channels. However,
>the radio only sends a carrier - no voice, when attempting to transmit.
>The carrier is strong and can be heard on a handheld over a half mile
>away, but no hint of any voice.
>
>We have eliminated the headset and the intercom, we think. We have
>traced mic wires and all appear to be as they should be. The PTT circuit
>is apparently working as a carrier is transmitted. Why no voice?
>
>Any suggestions as to where to continue trouble shooting would be appreciated.
>
>Charlie Brame
>San Antonio
>

Is your PTT line routed through the intercom, or direct to the radio? If
direct, the intercom might not be routing the mic signal out to the
radio. Check with the intercom mfgr to see if it requires the PTT line
to be routed through it to activate the xmit mic audio out line.

Did you install a backup mic/PTT jack direct to the radio? If so, you
can test from there to the radio with your mic plugged into this jack.
If not, can you get to the mic in terminal on the back of the radio? If
so, you can probe the terminal with a paper clip or something similar
while holding the PTT. As you probe repeatedly, you should hear clicks
on another radio on the same freq. This will let you know whether the
radio's audio section is working.

If all works so far, grab some clip leads & clip the intercom's mic
output line to the 'ring' of your headphone plug & clip the ground
terminal to the 'sleeve' of the plug. Hold the PTT down & talk in the
mic, listening to the headphone to see if you hear audio. This will tell
you if the intercom is passing audio in transmit mode.

If still no joy, ask us again.

Charlie













________________________________  Message 19  ____________________________________


Time: 07:32:39 PM PST US
From: Ken <klehman@albe...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crimper for large (AWG 10-6) open     barrel  terminals

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albe...>

Jon

FWIW I downloaded spec sheet for the VF7 tyco relay and believe it is
not suitable for that purpose. Figure 1 shows the ability to
disconnect a resistive load and extinguish the arc. At 40 amps (or a bit
more) it can't manage more than about 20 volts. Remember that you aren't
interupting a 12 volt supply but something higher during a runaway and
it will rise further as the contacts start to open and arc. With some
inductive characteristics this is also probably a more severe case than
the resistive situation that the graph refers to.
http://www.snesne.com/vf7.pdf

I found those "integrated" connectors to be problematic even on 1/4"
spade terminal relays. The open barrel connectors don't seem to grip
tight enough to reliably handle much current. I prefer separate PIDG
connectors for each wire. I tried using PIDG connectors in an integrated
connector but then they were too difficult to install or remove without
destroying the relay due to the high forces involved. Most automotive
relays don't interupt more than about 14 volts and I'm having trouble
thinking of any that handle more than about 10 amps except maybe the
anti-skid.

Ken


Jon Goguen wrote:

>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jon Goguen <jon.goguen@umas...>
>
>I have several uses in mind.  The most demanding is as an OV disconnect
>for the B lead of a 40 amp IR ND alternator, with an 8 or 6 AWG wire.  
>The contacts in the relay are rated for 100,000 cycles at  70 amps/14
>volts.  Do you have some reason to believe that fast-on style
>connectors don't scale up well to the 0.375 size and won't meet the
>manufacturers specs on these relays with respect to current rating?  
>They would be installed as part of an integrated connector that
>includes all four terminals, and would be provided with proper wire
>support.  I like them because they're very light, very cheap, and
>replaceable on a plug-in basis.
>
>Jon
>
>Jon Goguen
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Time: 08:22:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem
From: Deene Ogden <deene@us.i...>

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Deene Ogden <deene@us.i...>

I would suspect that the mike audio out from the intercom to the radio
mike audio input is somehow not making it (broken/missed connection).
Checkout that path...

The mike key is making it since the Com side transmits, but looks like the
mike audio is not.

Deene



"Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@bigp...>
Sent by: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matr...
02/20/2006 08:07 PM
Please respond to
aeroelectric-list@matr...


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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Maxwell"
<wrmaxwell@bigp...>

I would think the mic is not being switched from the intercom to the radio

mic input as the ptt is pushed - or at least that would be my diagnostic
starting point.  If that is not the problem I would then suspect the radio

itself.  what radio is it?

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Brame" <chasb@satx...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem


> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Brame
<chasb@satx...>
>
> A friend is having radio problems with a new intercom/radio
installation.
>
> His bird is equipped with a intercom which appears to work as
> advertised. Intercom between cockpits is okay. The mic break level is
> easily adjustable using the intercom squelch, and the intercom volume is
> adjustable. The comm radio receives very well on all channels. However,
> the radio only sends a carrier - no voice, when attempting to transmit.
> The carrier is strong and can be heard on a handheld over a half mile
> away, but no hint of any voice.
>
> We have eliminated the headset and the intercom, we think. We have
> traced mic wires and all appear to be as they should be. The PTT circuit
> is apparently working as a carrier is transmitted. Why no voice?
>
> Any suggestions as to where to continue trouble shooting would be
> appreciated.
>
> Charlie Brame
> San Antonio
>
>
>



























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Time: 08:32:12 PM PST US
From: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloy...>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloy...>

Charlie Brame wrote:

> We have eliminated the headset and the intercom, we think. We have
> traced mic wires and all appear to be as they should be. The PTT circuit
> is apparently working as a carrier is transmitted. Why no voice?

Check to see that the mic output level from the intercom to the comm
radio is set correctly. Some intercoms have a separate internal
adjustment to set the level of the signal going to the radio.

Secondly, check to see that the mic level in the radio is set properly.
Every transceiver with which I am familiar has a mic level control to
allow the shop to adjust to accommodate different microphones.

If you tell us which model of intercom and which model of comm radio you
have I might be able to be more specific.

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________________________________  Message 22  ____________________________________


Time: 09:02:24 PM PST US
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Carrier Only Problem
From: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro...>

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro...>

Does the system include an auxilliary radio input - to effectively bypass
the intercom - another set of jacks?  If so, have you tried it?  Have you
tried to turn off the intercom?


Regards,

Matt-



> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Brame
> <chasb@satx...>
>
> A friend is having radio problems with a new intercom/radio
> installation.
>
> His bird is equipped with a intercom which appears to work as
> advertised. Intercom between cockpits is okay. The mic break level is
> easily adjustable using the intercom squelch, and the intercom volume is
> adjustable. The comm radio receives very well on all channels. However,
> the radio only sends a carrier - no voice, when attempting to transmit.
> The carrier is strong and can be heard on a handheld over a half mile
> away, but no hint of any voice.
>
> We have eliminated the headset and the intercom, we think. We have
> traced mic wires and all appear to be as they should be. The PTT circuit
> is apparently working as a carrier is transmitted. Why no voice?
>
> Any suggestions as to where to continue trouble shooting would be
> appreciated.
>
> Charlie Brame
> San Antonio
>
>




















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