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Shabbos 050: Maskana regarding Makeh b'Patesh
The Gemora in Shabbos 50b brings Rav Sheshes' question regarding
squashing olives on a rock on Shabbos, to sweeten them.
From Rashi and Tosfos (perhaps more clear in Tosfos) the question of
the Gemora is is this Ossur because you are making some sort of
"Tikkun" in the Ochel or not I would go as far to use the words that
this is some sort of a "Makeh b'Patish" in the Ochel (which c'yadu'ah
is a discussion in the Achronim if Makeh b'Patish is Shayach by Ochel
or not -- my question stems from that discussion in trying to bring
this Gemora as a Re'ah one way or the other) In any case the Gemora
immediately says that even during the week it should be Ossur.
However is there anyway to work out what the Gemora (itself) would
hold "l'Maseh" in regards to Shabbos if this is Muter to do or not to
the Ochel and for what reason?
Thanks for all your time and efforts. Looking forward to a response
to the shailo...Hatzlacha Rabba to all the members of the Kollel!
Yehoshua, Yerushalayim, Eretz Yisrael
The Kollel replies:
I can't see how this could be derived conclusively from the Gemara,
as the Gemara continues to discuss a completely different question,
as you mentioned.