How is it you are able to achieve the success of sending the post to which
I am replying?
I don't think the version of Mailman running this list is anything new.
Its function is to distribute mail to all the members that comes from a
valid email address. That appears to work from my point of view - my
postings and replies seem to be received by the other members.
The other thing that Mailman does is react to bounces that come back as a
result of the normal distribution of messages. This too is necessary and
simple - if one of us discontinues an email address the mail to that
address becomes undeliverable. After some number of bounces that email
address must be unsubscribed. There is really no way to avoid this. Too
many bounces = unsubscription. No one associated with the list is at fault
One of the things that goes wrong is that our email addresses are harvested
from contact lists and spambots distribute spam to those contact addresses
using our valid addresses - spoofing, it is called. In that way the list
receives spam and the moderators have to ban those senders. Sometimes they
are real members that have had their address used for spoofing.
The other thing is spam will get sent out spoofing the list email address.
This is particularly annoying because if you mark it as spam yourself then
you also do not receive true list emails henceforth.
I have run Mailman lists in the past and there was no blacklisting service
used. That is not how mailman works, AFAIK. I do not know why you feel
like there is some mechanism to remove people from the list other than for
the reasons I have described, which are unfortunate and unavoidable.
I would be interested to learn in what ways my understanding of Mailman is
> Greetings, Michael Ross!
> > I think as Don noticed, sending messages to the list from the wrong
> > causes trouble. I am not aware of any problems when I send messages from
> > the correct address - ever.
> I always send mail from correct address. (It's just hardcoded into template
> for the list.)
> And it's list that bouncing my mails accusing me (rather, my mail provider)
> for spamming.
> I've tried to contact my provider for more info, but they said it's not
> possible to make any sense of the information given by the bounce report,
> present on the site maintaining the blacklist. Checked it myself,
> read the policy, and indeed, they just don't store any relevant info,
> instead "oh, just look in your own logs".
> > That adventure can only be solved by clearly stating the difficulty to
> > list managers and helping them sort it out.
> If it wasn't apparent on previous reports, here it is: The blacklisting
> service chosen for this list is only good at reducing the list members
> not really helping to resolve the troubles, when something go wrong.
> Andrey Repin (anrdaemon@free...) 23.02.2012, <04:57>
> Sorry for my terrible english...
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> dia-list@gnom... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list > FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq > Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia >
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