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d : discuss-gnustep@gnu.org 27 August 2009 • 6:24PM -0400

Re: framework
by Michael Thaler

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Hi,

> Why?  Objective-C is much better than either... it's a very good  
> server solution (C++ is too inflexible and Java is slow/clumsy).

Im my opinion this is just spreading prejudices. I seriously doubt that Java is much slower then Objective C. Have a look at:

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all&box=1

Objective C is not in the list but I doubt that Objective C would be much faster then Java if you actually use Objective C and not just a plain C subset. And Scala also runs on the JVM and is also quite fast and it is a very nice, modern language which is not clumsy at all.

C++ with a good library like Qt (which is LGPL now) offers many of the advantages of Objective C. In addition it is possible to program both abstract and fast in C++, which is not possible in Objective C. Just try to write an efficient and easy to use vector class in Objective C (not using plain C). I doubt that you can get it really performant.

That being said, Objective C is a nice language and I do not say it is not a good alternative for server side programming. I just do not like people spreading prejudices which are basically wrong.

Michael


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