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     1. 06:40 AM - Re: Cockpit Module went in On Sunday  (Kingsley Hurst)
     2. 10:40 AM - Re: What engine for my Europa?  (nigel charles)
     3. 12:48 PM - Re: Ideas For Seat Pans  (JR (Bob) Gowing)
     4. 01:26 PM - Re: What engine for my Europa?  (Duncan McFadyean)
     5. 03:54 PM - Campaigners for our flying freedoms required!  (Jeremy Davey)
     6. 04:10 PM - What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for Permit aircraft in the UK?  (Jeremy Davey)
     7. 05:45 PM - Re: What engine for my Europa?  (Kingsley Hurst)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 06:40:29 AM PST US
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@grow...>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cockpit Module went in On Sunday

--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@grow...>

Brian S wrote:
> Areas around the knee hump of the seat are a very tight fit and have a
very
> THIN layer of epoxy. This looks like a void area when shining a light
through
> the wall. I am concerned about this area not having enough epoxy.

Brian,

I wouldn't be too worried about the THIN layer of Redux (Araldite 420
A/B)

Quoting from the Ciba Product Data Sheet for Araldite 420 A/B (Redux) it
says - A layer of adhesive 0.05 to 0.10 mm thick will normally impart the
greatest lap shear strength to a joint.

I also understand the minute glass balls in the yellow paste that makes it
feel gritty when mixing, prevent surfaces from squeezing out too much
adhesive even if you bolt them up.

Regards
Kingsley Hurst
Mono Classic 281 in Oz.






________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 10:40:16 AM PST US
From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tisc...>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: What engine for my Europa?

--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tisc...>

>One of the nuts holding the exhaust manifold on is started to go
slightly rusty in one corner<

I know this was said tongue in cheek but I thought you would like to
know that the new type nuts are copper coated so don't corrode so
easily.

Nigel Charles






________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 12:48:19 PM PST US
From: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr....>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ideas For Seat Pans

--> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr....>

BArian S
I hope to be able to attach my adjustable seats drawings in the next 3-4
weeks.
J R (Bob) Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz
do not archive

----- Original Message -----
From: <EuropaXSA276@aol....>
Subject: Europa-List: Ideas For Seat Pans


> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol....
>
> Howdy again Gents.
>
> Now that my module is in place, I'm looking for ideas on manufacturing the
> seat pans.  Anyone have a few photos on this subject that they would like
to
> share?
>
> One note is that I have fuel line and filter routing under both seats. Ah
la
> 912S style.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brian S
> A276 Tri Gear. Texas
> See my build photos at:
> http://forum.okhuijsen.org/BrianS
>
>






________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 01:26:12 PM PST US
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfa...>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: What engine for my Europa?

--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfa...>

I thought pulse jets were illegal for use in the UK? Possibly following the
last time they 'popular' 60-odd years ago.


Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@btcl...>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: What engine for my Europa?


> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Graham"
<nigel_graham@btcl...>
>
>
> Well I've read all the passionate discussion on Europa engine options and
> reckon you've all got it wrong.
> This is the future.....................or perhaps the end?
>
> http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/
>
> Nigel  :-(
>
> Europa V1
> Cockpit module well on the way
> Tail burnt off
>
>






________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 03:54:12 PM PST US
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn....>
Subject: Europa-List: Campaigners for our flying freedoms required!

--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn....>

(Apologies to the non-UK folks on the list, but I need to reach all the UK
folks on this one.)

You may or may not have noticed the "CAN-do Corner" column (text below) in
the last Popular Flying. The aim is to form a network of campaigners to
target EASA, Eurocontrol, MPs, local councils etc. on key issues in a
coordinated fashion.

We're now calling for volunteers as loudly as possible. Please sign up by
emailing can@pfa.... as described in the article below!

Thanks and regards,
Jeremy

CAN-do Corner

Are you bothered with bureaucrats from Brussels blowing your flying budget
with their demands for ever more costly compliances?

Are you angry about airspace access issues?

Or livid about councils constantly attacking strips and airfields around the
country?

The PFA has been at the forefront of campaigning on issues like Mode S,
enlarged controlled airspace, threatened local airfields, and the
ever-increasing costs of recreational flying. It is clear that the threats
to our hobby are coming ever thicker and faster, and that a coordinated
network of campaigners who can be called upon to help fight these issues is
required.

Take, for example, the recent consultation by Eurocontrol on charging for
VFR flight in uncontrolled airspace. Not only were the vast majority of
private pilots left off the circulation of the proposal, but the deadline
for responses was extremely short. We need to be able to react very quickly
to these threats, we need to be able to do so in large numbers, we need to
make clear, concise, pointed arguments, and we need to target the right
people: MPs and MEPs, local authorities, Eurocontrol, EASA, .

Modern technology has given us the perfect tool for calling on a network of
campaigners quickly and easily; email, so we are forming the PFA Campaigning
Aviators Network, or PFA CAN, and are looking for volunteers (don't stop
reading now you've seen the 'v' word - this affects you!).

Whenever a new campaign is required, we will email you asking for your help.
We'll give you details of the issue, who to write to or send an email to,
and a list of points you might want to select from when writing your
response. All you have to do is write. This will not take a lot of your
time, but it will save you a great deal of hassle in the future.

To join the PFA CAN, please just email can@pfa.... with your name and
preferred email address and we'll add you to our list. Needless to say, your
details will be treated in the strictest confidence and will only be used
for the campaigns. Volunteering will not expose you to spam, viruses, worms
or Trojan horses. On the other hand, not volunteering.


Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms






________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 04:10:33 PM PST US
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn....>
Subject: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for Permit
aircraft in the UK?

--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn....>

(Again, apologies to the non-UK folks - another local issue I need to
consult on.)

Many in the UK Europa community know I'm passionate about wanting 'extended
privileges' (Night and IMC) in Europas and other suitable Permit aircraft.
The PFA is looking into the possibility of pushing the CAA for Night and IMC
privileges for Permit aircraft in the UK. I've taken an action to find out
how interested the membership is, and this Forum seems a good place to
start!

Let's start by understanding what some of the constraints MIGHT be (nothing
is decided yet).

1)        Obviously only suitable types are going to be considered. So no IMC
work in a Pitts S2. Stability will be a key requirement here.
2)        Aircraft will have to be suitable equipped - including the right
instrument and lighting fits.
3)        Permits allowing extended privileges will likely cost more to cover
the extra Engineering work.
4)        Required inspection and build standards may well be higher.

Given the above, could I please ask PFA members to advise me either on this
Forum or privately to EuropaFlyer_3@msn.... as to whether you:

1)        Would be for this proposal
2)        Would be against this proposal
3)        Would be neither for nor against this proposal

Thanks and regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1200 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms






________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 05:45:54 PM PST US
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@grow...>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: What engine for my Europa?

--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@grow...>

Why would anyone want to put a 1940 technology pulse jet in a Year 2004
Europa ?  Sorry folks but I think you have got it all wrong.

What we need is an engine with plenty of power, plenty of cylinders for
smoothness, slow turning with heaps of torque to drive a nice big
propeller efficiently, an engine that is efficient with a BSFC of around
.27 lbs/hp/hr instead of about .47 and not only be light weight, but
will run on any available fuel.

Look no further, the answer is at
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/

Anybody got any ideas where I can pick up a FWF kit ?

Regards
Kingsley

Just working on the C of G calcs for this new engine !

Do not archive.












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