() Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.s...>
() Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:35:28 GMT

   If they had an incentive to make emacs appealing to the masses,
   they'd do it.  Since they aren't doing it, I think it's clear
   that they don't have the incentive.

I must admit, from where i sit, nothing is so clear.

   I was simply speaking of the motivation of the current
   maintainers to make changes to emacs.  Unless the current
   maintainers are confused, they *already* have emacs pretty much
   the way they want it.

Probably confusion and acceptance are independent.  If not, the
acceptably confusing trick is to determine which causes which.  :-D

   But Group B is happy with things the way they are - so why
   should they go to the trouble to make the changes that Group A
   wants?

Long-term, the biggest trouble arises from overly-rigid boundaries
between groups.  What is a liquid border but a f{r}ont of change?