My 2 cents. Personally I proffer the email list. It's just all around more
convenient. Most of us have our own forums to maintain without the need to
be diverting to another. Emails save the time of searching, catching up etc.
As Nicholas mentioned most forums only inform you once of a reply and stop
sending notifications until you visit the forum again.
However, it would appear of late that hostility prevails at least twice a
day. People could chill and remember when they first started out and
learned to hold their tongues and count to ten before belittling people in
the list just because it isn't running the way they want it to.
Forum form would probably only amplify the opportunity for asshats to troll
and abuse those who are less knowledgeable.
Perhaps if people wander off track and divert the purpose of the list, a
simple link to an appropriate source of help would keep the less
knowledgeable happy and aggression at bay?
Forums take allot of work and moderation. Emails will always be less time
consuming. I appreciate the input and constant flow of list mail.
From: hlds-bounces@list... [mailto:hlds-bounces@list...] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 12:50 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Forum vs. email list
Keep the list. It is still far more useful than the SRCDS forums on
But above all, keep the announcements. Having those go to your phone so you
know an update just hit is just great.
I like the ease of access I get with the mailing list. I maybe able to get
emails about new topics, but I can't just hit the reply button and go from
there. It may seem easy just to open a web browser and go to the forums, but
it's a lot of work for a quick reply to confirm a issue with a update or a
While we do have issues on the mailing list every now and then, it doesn't
seem to happen to often and come in spurts. Maybe some explanation of what
is acceptable on the mailing list. Also a small list to new subscribers of
what is more for the forums and not the mailing list.
Also my phones does a lot better with this then loading webpages and I don't
want a new phone =P
On 10/24/2011 8:34 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
people ask for help on help forums or mailing lists. Not everyone
signs up and instantly reads everything, goes through all the
archives, or spends hours researching.
I'd like to use this comment as a springboard for a discussion about the
format of this list.
I hear that a few years ago the idea of migrating the email list to a forum
was kicked around. However, at the time (is this still true today?) the
users of the list didn't like the idea. it is my understanding that most
server admins prefer:
1.) Receiving push notifications.
2.) Viewing the list in their email client
#1 seems like a really compelling advantage (especially for announcements),
while #2 seems like a personal preference, and many people have the opposite
A forum has several compelling advantages:
1.) Easier to search and find answers to previously asked questions
2.) Easier to follow a thread of conversation. (I personally find any email
distribution list to become unreadable pretty much instantly, with all
the>>>>'s and broken line breaks that everybody's mail clients and put
3.) Easier to modify your post if you notice a mistake or want to clarify
something, rather than making a new post.
4.) Easier to delete or move posts if they are spam, rude, inappropriate,
belong in the general TF2 SPUF forum, etc.
5.) Easier to ignore an entire thread that you are not interested in.
Could there be some sort of forum + push notification that would satisfy
what everybody wants? This list exists to serve you guys, so I'm curious
what everything thinks. I *believe* most of the guys would find a forum
format (perhaps with some push notification) more convenient.
It would be good to get some opinions about how people prefer to consume the
information on this list.