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     1. 12:20 AM - Re: L-29 GLUT  (SD737@aol....)
     2. 12:25 AM - Re: fly-in  (SD737@aol....)
     3. 07:09 AM - Re: fly-in  (Colyergreg@aol....)
     4. 07:09 AM - Re: fly-in  (Colyergreg@aol....)
     5. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: fly-in  (Bill)
     6. 12:21 PM - Re: Re: fly-in  (Gary Cole)
     7. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: Re: fly-in  (Bill)
     8. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: Re: fly-in  (Gary Cole)
     9. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: Re: fly-in  (fish@avia...)
    10. 05:29 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: fly-in  (Bill)
    11. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: fly-in  (Bill)
    12. 10:19 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: fly-in  (Gary Cole)
    13. 11:12 PM - New topic/Approach Charts  (SD737@aol....)



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Time: 12:20:29 AM PST US
From: SD737@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 GLUT

--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....

What plane are you talking about... ??   LOL    
I sure wish my L-29 had those performance numbers....

26,000 feet?  By the time I could limp my L-29 to FL260 I'd be a  glider....

economy cruise speed, 360-390 kts at 26,000???  Maybe... if I pointed  it
straight down with full throttle...


Vne, .87 Mach ???   You must be  talking about some other plane....

















________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 12:25:03 AM PST US
From: SD737@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....

Kingman AZ would be good.  

Jill and Carl Hayes are in Kingman now and they work on Yak's, so if anyone  
had a problem they would be able to help out with  tools/equipment.













________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 07:09:34 AM PST US
From: Colyergreg@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

Lets do a Kingman AZ fly in.  I will talk the CA guys into going.......













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Time: 07:09:41 AM PST US
From: Colyergreg@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

How L-29's are there that could/would go?













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Time: 07:16:41 AM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

2's in!

If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
little?

----- Original Message -----
From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
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________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 12:21:48 PM PST US
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>

Bill,
Do you have a new starter for a 29?
Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
Call me
Gary Cole

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

2's in!

If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
little?

----- Original Message -----
From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
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________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 03:11:11 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

No. Went to Minnesota. Fell off the cradle during shipping. Got totaled.
Owner is taking parts off as he needs them on another airplane he bought.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
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> Bill,
> Do you have a new starter for a 29?
> Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
> Call me
> Gary Cole
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
> To: l29-list@matr...
> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
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> 2's in!
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> If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
> rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
> little?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
> To: <l29-list@matr...>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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________________________________  Message 8  _____________________________________


Time: 03:31:48 PM PST US
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Subject: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>

What airport in Az.?
Let me know as I might have to come and fly Bill's Viper. What a blast.
Bill if you need a back seat I will pay 1/2 fuel. (If it won't break me) How
many mile from your base to the fly-in?
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

No. Went to Minnesota. Fell off the cradle during shipping. Got totaled.
Owner is taking parts off as he needs them on another airplane he bought.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
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> Bill,
> Do you have a new starter for a 29?
> Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
> Call me
> Gary Cole
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
> To: l29-list@matr...
> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
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> 2's in!
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> If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
> rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
> little?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
> To: <l29-list@matr...>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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________________________________  Message 9  _____________________________________


Time: 04:05:44 PM PST US
From: fish@avia...
Subject: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...

Group,

Since you are talking about a fly-in in AZ, why not make it the CJAA convention.
Someone mentioned that last year the convention turned into an L-39 gathering.
That is because you L-29 drivers decided not to go. Show up, then it will be
an L-29 event!

Fly Safe
John Fischer


>--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>
>What airport in Az.?
>Let me know as I might have to come and fly Bill's Viper. What a blast.
>Bill if you need a back seat I will pay 1/2 fuel. (If it won't break me) How

>many mile from your base to the fly-in?
>Gary
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
>[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:11 PM
>To: l29-list@matr...
>Subject: Re: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
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>No. Went to Minnesota. Fell off the cradle during shipping. Got totaled.
>Owner is taking parts off as he needs them on another airplane he bought.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>To: <l29-list@matr...>
>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM
>Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
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>> Bill,
>> Do you have a new starter for a 29?
>> Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
>> Call me
>> Gary Cole
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
>> To: l29-list@matr...
>> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>>
>> 2's in!
>>
>> If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for

>> rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a

>> little?
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
>> To: <l29-list@matr...>
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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________________________________  Message 10  ____________________________________


Time: 05:29:05 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Because its just some guys getting together to have fun. No politics, no
military tours, no organization - A Complete out-of-control weekend. CJAA
things usually don't involve flying. We can talk 100% L-29s. Maintenance,
performance, lying and big fish tails. We could invite Casa's, fougas,
Provost and anything else that cost under $80,000 and cruise speed under
290kts. Blue collar jets!
The only thing that involves any organizational meetings will be a briefing
if we fly formation. We do have some FAST leads and check pilots that said
they want be there should you desire a FAST card. Otherwise they want to go
hang out like everybody else.

Only my opinion. I am but one vote. Sorry, no voting, only venting.


----- Original Message -----
From: <fish@avia...>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...
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> convention.
> Someone mentioned that last year the convention turned into an L-39
> gathering.
> That is because you L-29 drivers decided not to go. Show up, then it will
> be
> an L-29 event!
>
> Fly Safe
> John Fischer
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>
>>--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>>
>>What airport in Az.?
>>Let me know as I might have to come and fly Bill's Viper. What a blast.
>>Bill if you need a back seat I will pay 1/2 fuel. (If it won't break me)
>>How
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>>many mile from your base to the fly-in?
>>Gary
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
>>[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
>>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:11 PM
>>To: l29-list@matr...
>>Subject: Re: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
>>
>>--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>>
>>No. Went to Minnesota. Fell off the cradle during shipping. Got totaled.
>>Owner is taking parts off as he needs them on another airplane he bought.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>>To: <l29-list@matr...>
>>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM
>>Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>> Do you have a new starter for a 29?
>>> Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
>>> Call me
>>> Gary Cole
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
>>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
>>> To: l29-list@matr...
>>> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>>>
>>> 2's in!
>>>
>>> If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
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>>> rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
>
>>> little?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
>>> To: <l29-list@matr...>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in
>>>
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________________________________  Message 11  ____________________________________


Time: 05:30:34 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

I will probably fly an airplane from California to Colorado and drop in to
the get together. Kingman, Arizona. If that changes I'll let you know.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>
> What airport in Az.?
> Let me know as I might have to come and fly Bill's Viper. What a blast.
> Bill if you need a back seat I will pay 1/2 fuel. (If it won't break me)
> How
> many mile from your base to the fly-in?
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:11 PM
> To: l29-list@matr...
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> No. Went to Minnesota. Fell off the cradle during shipping. Got totaled.
> Owner is taking parts off as he needs them on another airplane he bought.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
> To: <l29-list@matr...>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>> Bill,
>> Do you have a new starter for a 29?
>> Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
>> Call me
>> Gary Cole
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
>> To: l29-list@matr...
>> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
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>> 2's in!
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>> If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
>> rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
>> little?
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
>> To: <l29-list@matr...>
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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________________________________  Message 12  ____________________________________


Time: 10:19:16 PM PST US
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>

What is the fly-in date?
If you need a GIB from wherever call me.
I think an event as described will be a BLAST!
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

I will probably fly an airplane from California to Colorado and drop in to
the get together. Kingman, Arizona. If that changes I'll let you know.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in


> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
>
> What airport in Az.?
> Let me know as I might have to come and fly Bill's Viper. What a blast.
> Bill if you need a back seat I will pay 1/2 fuel. (If it won't break me)
> How
> many mile from your base to the fly-in?
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:11 PM
> To: l29-list@matr...
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> No. Went to Minnesota. Fell off the cradle during shipping. Got totaled.
> Owner is taking parts off as he needs them on another airplane he bought.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
> To: <l29-list@matr...>
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
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>> Bill,
>> Do you have a new starter for a 29?
>> Your 29 engine that you took out did it go to Randy in California?
>> Call me
>> Gary Cole
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:16 AM
>> To: l29-list@matr...
>> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
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>> 2's in!
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>> If anybody is in touch with Carl Hayes, maybe he can work out a deal for
>> rooms and cheap fuel. If we can find gas cheap enough we could formate a
>> little?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
>> To: <l29-list@matr...>
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: fly-in
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________________________________  Message 13  ____________________________________


Time: 11:12:15 PM PST US
From: SD737@aol....
Subject: L29-List: New topic/Approach Charts

--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....

Hi guys,




Check out this site.  These charts are free and have all the  instrument
approaches and you can print them.

_http://www.myairplane.com/databases/approach/index.php_
(http://www.myairplane.com/databases/approach/index.php)

Scott
Reno, NV




















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