--> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worl...>

Its funny. I did not know what anyone else would be writing. But, looks like
we all about agree.  Bravo

Delfin 2819


From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
To: <l29-list@matr...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: L-29 GLUT


> --> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>
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> Your comments are on the mark and the worm doesn't have a clue about jets.
> As I fly off a 3300' grass runway in my 29 it leaves behind a spitfire and
> departs 700 feet later the the spit.
> Not too good a look on a 2 ship departure.
> Gary C.
> Lets get a 29 fly-in in the works.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: l29-list@matr...
> Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 GLUT
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> --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmai...>
>
> Are you going to the CJAA convention? I heard that Doug Gillis isnt going,
> and Zach wont be there. I spoke with Gary Cole and he was asking if I was
> going. I said no. Looks like it'll be a 39 owners convention.
>
> Ernie
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> On 2/7/06, ROBERT SCHWARTZ <schwartzcompany@worl...> wrote:
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <
>> schwartzcompany@worl...>
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>> just kidding. actually with aerobatics it might be a quart every 2 hours.
>> But its  great airplane.
>> this guy got me going about the L29
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>> Robert E. Schwartz
>> President
>> THE SCHWARTZ COMPANY MIDWEST
>> Commercial Real Estate Services
>> 2406 East Pleasant Street
>> Davenport, Iowa USA 52803
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>> Email: schwartzcompany@worl...
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmai...>
>> To: <l29-list@matr...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 GLUT
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>> > --> L29-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmai...>
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>> > Hey Bob,
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>> > 1 quart an hour aye??? Better get it checked. I'm using about 1 quart
>> > every
>> > 3 or 4.
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>> > Ernie
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>> > On 2/7/06, ROBERT SCHWARTZ <schwartzcompany@worl...> wrote:
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>> >> --> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <
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>> >> In response to Steve Roberts post:
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>> >> I've been involved in the L-29 community for almost 10 years and I
>> >> feel
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>> >> a response to Mr. Roberts is necessary.
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>> >> When the L-29 first became available the prices were around $100,000
>> for
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>> >> certified , flying nice aircraft.  The L-29 market was dramatically
>> >> affected
>> >> by the introduction of the L-39 to the civilian market. However, there
>> >> was
>> >> and still is no comparison between the 2 aircraft, except for the
>> >> wonderful
>> >> quality of Aero Vodochody production.  The L-39 is a more
>> >> sophisticated
>> >> with
>> >> more advanced systems, a very expensive fan jet engine, costing over
>> >> $100,000 to replace and annualized routine maintained far above that
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> L-29. That being said, it is a wonderful aircraft and even in today's
>> >> marketplace of somewhat reduced prices, you are going to be paying
>> >> $175,000
>> >> and up for any decent flying aircraft.  While fuel burn between the 2
>> >> aircrafts is very similar.
>> >>
>> >> Granted fuel costs have risen a lot !!!!.  But where can anyone buy
>> >> and
>> >> operate an ex-military jet with the reliability, ease of maintenance
>> and
>> >> parts availability that the L-29 affords for these prices?  NOWHERE.
>> The
>> >> L-29 remains the biggest bang for the buck in all of the warbird
>> >> community.
>> >> Maybe you would prefer investing $70,000 in a YAK with a piston engine
>> >> that
>> >> requires a quart of oil per hour. (Don't get on me, I own one and love
>> >> it!)
>> >> Just a comparison.  A $50,000 car would be worth $5,000 -five years
>> >> latter.
>> >> So, everything taken into consideration, its a wonderful aircraft and
>> >> affords the average guy the opportunity to live a dream on a beer
>> budget.
>> >> With fuel being the single greatest operating cost, I suggest that
>> every
>> >> operator look at ways of relocating to airports that allow you to own
>> >> your
>> >> own fuel tank, or allow you to truck in a fuel trailer etc. After all,
>> >> reducing fuel costs greatly enhances your hourly ability to fly this
>> >> aircraft.
>> >>
>> >> Times change and so will the market for the L-29. With surplus engines
>> >> becoming a big issue with the L-39, the L-29 could see a revival in
>> >> the
>> >> coming months and years.  To address resale value.  The market is all
>> >> over
>> >> the place. I have seen  very nice , well equipped aircraft sell for
>> >> $100,000
>> >> and I have seen them in the box for $18,000.  Every case is different
>> and
>> >> the condition and representation of each aircraft is different. It
>> >> takes  a
>> >> nice aircraft, (more than just slapped together) and some salesmanship
>> to
>> >> get the top dollar. But it is possible and I know of several that sold
>> >> recently well above $50,000.    Let work together and stick together.
>> >> Happy
>> >> Delfin Flying
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>> >> The Delfin Driver--2819
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