--> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol....


Talking to airport manager.  L71 cal city, about 7 miles from MHV.  Cheap Jet A and the manager is getting back to me for a discount price.  This seems like it is about the same distance for everybody which give us more fuel to fly together.  All of us from Norcal is good with it, let me know on the so cal guys.  Thanks
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     1. 07:36 AM - Re: Help - airspeed sensor  (Colyergreg@aol....)
     2. 07:49 AM - flyin  (Bill)
     3. 08:12 AM - Re: flyin  (John Cabrera)
     4. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
     5. 08:27 AM - Re: flyin  (Colyergreg@aol....)
     6. 08:32 AM - Re: flyin  (Colyergreg@aol....)
     7. 08:39 AM - Re: flyin  (SD737@aol....)
     8. 09:13 AM - Re: flyin  (fish@avia...)
     9. 10:37 AM - Re: Help - airspeed sensor  (Jorgen Nielsen)
    10. 12:54 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
    11. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
    12. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
    13. 03:31 PM - Re: Help - airspeed sensor  (Colyergreg@aol....)
    14. 05:54 PM - LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines  (SD737@aol....)
    15. 07:05 PM - Re: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines  (Bill)
    16. 07:10 PM - Re: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines  (Bill)
    17. 11:15 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (John Cabrera)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 07:36:31 AM PST US
From: Colyergreg@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

Jorgen,
   I have the factory mach meter, but I use a F-86 airspeed  indicator which
has Knots 50-700 and mach.  but it is just static and  pitot.  the factory
mach meter is attached to the yellow sensor for the  flaps up under the left
side

of the panel (on the lower inside of the nose  wall.)













________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 07:49:45 AM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Did you all decide where to go or did we lose interest? Or run out of money just
thinking about it?

I have 2 guys that want formation training. So I need to tell them which way to
point the nose.












________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 08:12:33 AM PST US
From: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
Subject: RE: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>

I am still in.  One way or another I am flying that weekend.
Even if its just by myself.
John..

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: L29-List: flyin


--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Did you all decide where to go or did we lose interest? Or run out of
money just thinking about it?

I have 2 guys that want formation training. So I need to tell them which
way to point the nose.


























________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 08:20:14 AM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: RE: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Formation will be easier! Not much safer, but easier.
If I can in touch with P.J., I'll come out and we can fly formation.
I still need your address to send the formation manual.
Send it to my czech6 address.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: L29-List: flyin


> --> L29-List message posted by: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
>
> I am still in.  One way or another I am flying that weekend.
> Even if its just by myself.
> John..














________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 08:27:49 AM PST US
From: Colyergreg@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

We are still in from Northern CA, VCB, 4SD and RBL.  Just lets make a  
decision at the middle place between us.  More gas for formation flying and  
training.  Greg  MHV look good to you guys?  check it out on  airnav.com   We
are

open to any good  airport.













________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 08:32:34 AM PST US
From: Colyergreg@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so I
will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg













________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 08:39:42 AM PST US
From: SD737@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....

Kingman still works for me.













________________________________  Message 8  _____________________________________


Time: 09:13:18 AM PST US
From: fish@avia...
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...


Several years ago, Mojave charged CJAA more for fuel then regular fly-in
customers.
I would suggest California City Airport (L71) is about 5 min away and has the
best fuel prices locally (and I am sure the manager will work with you).

We currently do not have a hotel, so you would need to stay in mojave (unless
you want to sleep on my couch and floor).

If you need tools for repairs, I have a hanger full of tools to make repairs.


Contact:
Tom Weil - Airport manager
(760) 373-4867

Fly Safe
John Fischer
Cell (818) 257-0911
California City, CA



>--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
>look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so I

>will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
















________________________________  Message 9  _____________________________________


Time: 10:37:06 AM PST US
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb...>
Subject: RE: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor

--> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb...>

Thanks Greg.

Sounds good.  My air speed indicator show indicated airspeed, true airspeed
(or equivalent) and mach number.

The electronics side is curious.  I do not have the yellow sensor, that is
now all done by the air speed indocator.

Do you have wiring details for yellow box?

  

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Colyergreg@aol....
Sent: 20 February 2006 05:36 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

Jorgen,
   I have the factory mach meter, but I use a F-86 airspeed  indicator which
has Knots 50-700 and mach.  but it is just static and  pitot.  the factory
mach meter is attached to the yellow sensor for the  flaps up under the left
side of the panel (on the lower inside of the nose  wall.)

























________________________________  Message 10  ____________________________________


Time: 12:54:12 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Kingman.
Boulder City.

----- Original Message -----
From: <fish@avia...>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin


> --> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...
>
>
> Several years ago, Mojave charged CJAA more for fuel then regular fly-in
> customers.
> I would suggest California City Airport (L71) is about 5 min away and has
> the
> best fuel prices locally (and I am sure the manager will work with you).
>
> We currently do not have a hotel, so you would need to stay in mojave
> (unless
> you want to sleep on my couch and floor).
>
> If you need tools for repairs, I have a hanger full of tools to make
> repairs.
>
>
> Contact:
> Tom Weil - Airport manager
> (760) 373-4867
>
> Fly Safe
> John Fischer
> Cell (818) 257-0911
> California City, CA
>
>
>>--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>>
>>look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so I
>
>>will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>














________________________________  Message 11  ____________________________________


Time: 12:55:39 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Kingman
Boulder City (61B) plenty of Hotels in Vegas area.

----- Original Message -----
From: <fish@avia...>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin


> --> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...
>
>
> Several years ago, Mojave charged CJAA more for fuel then regular fly-in
> customers.
> I would suggest California City Airport (L71) is about 5 min away and has
> the
> best fuel prices locally (and I am sure the manager will work with you).
>
> We currently do not have a hotel, so you would need to stay in mojave
> (unless
> you want to sleep on my couch and floor).
>
> If you need tools for repairs, I have a hanger full of tools to make
> repairs.
>
>
> Contact:
> Tom Weil - Airport manager
> (760) 373-4867
>
> Fly Safe
> John Fischer
> Cell (818) 257-0911
> California City, CA
>
>
>>--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>>
>>look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so I
>
>>will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>














________________________________  Message 12  ____________________________________


Time: 02:32:56 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

California City, if there is a deal on fuel. The manager of gas will want to
be sure
that we will buy some and fly. Some one should check the price at Fox.
Hotels are close. There are fuel deals if we beg.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin


> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> We are still in from Northern CA, VCB, 4SD and RBL.  Just lets make a
> decision at the middle place between us.  More gas for formation flying
> and
> training.  Greg  MHV look good to you guys?  check it out on  airnav.com
> We are
> open to any good  airport.
>
>
>














________________________________  Message 13  ____________________________________


Time: 03:31:49 PM PST US
From: Colyergreg@aol....
Subject: Re: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor

--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....

I will look...













________________________________  Message 14  ____________________________________


Time: 05:54:39 PM PST US
From: SD737@aol....
Subject: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines

--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....

It APPEARS that the last two Factory Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines  
will be sold to a NON-aviaton, Non-L-29 buyer later this week.

IF there are any L-29 guys who want one of these engines now is the time to  
contact me!!!

I would prefer to see them used for L-29's, but MONEY talks......

Happy Flying,

Scott


Two out of 11 engines.  What's left:  1973 & 1982 overhauled  in 1990.

>> HI Guys,
>>
>> Started with 11 Factory  Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines and have 2
>> left to  sell.
>> Come with Original Log Books and a tail  pipe.
>>
>> One of the Texas guys was flying his L-29 recently  and his compressor got
>> hit with some type of unknown FOD
>>  He sent me pictures and the compressor wheel was shredded which makes  the
>> engine basically worthless as a powerplant in the  aircraft.
>> He is coming to Reno to buy a replacement engine TODAY,  February  15th.
>> These planes are basically big static display  paper weights without a
>> good
>> engine.  Hell, it  won't even "squeal like a pig" and make noise without
>>  an
>> engine.
>>
>> One day your engine is great, the  next day you get a small piece  of FOD
>> and
>> the  engine is garbage.  I have a spare for my   plane.
>>
>> If anyone is interested I have 2 engines left to  sell. I will either  put
>> them on Ebay or sell them to a guy who  uses them for non L-29  purposes.
>> Years of
>>  manufacture range from in the 1970's to the  newest in 1983 and  were
>> overhauled in 1990-1992.  They are in the  fiberglass  storage pods sealed

>> up in
>> plastic with desiccant  moisture absorbing  bags.
>>
>> Selling them for $3,500  less than the same engines available in the
>> "northern Mid  West".
>>
>> Last  chance!
>>













________________________________  Message 15  ____________________________________


Time: 07:05:13 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Money is money.

----- Original Message -----
From: <SD737@aol....>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines


> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....
>
> It APPEARS that the last two Factory Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines
> will be sold to a NON-aviaton, Non-L-29 buyer later this week.
>
> IF there are any L-29 guys who want one of these engines now is the time
> to
> contact me!!!
>
> I would prefer to see them used for L-29's, but MONEY talks......
>
> Happy Flying,
>
> Scott
>
>
> Two out of 11 engines.  What's left:  1973 & 1982 overhauled  in 1990.
>
>>> HI Guys,
>>>
>>> Started with 11 Factory  Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines and have
>>> 2
>>> left to  sell.
>>> Come with Original Log Books and a tail  pipe.
>>>
>>> One of the Texas guys was flying his L-29 recently  and his compressor
>>> got
>>> hit with some type of unknown FOD
>>>  He sent me pictures and the compressor wheel was shredded which makes
>>> the
>>> engine basically worthless as a powerplant in the  aircraft.
>>> He is coming to Reno to buy a replacement engine TODAY,  February  15th.
>>> These planes are basically big static display  paper weights without a
>>> good
>>> engine.  Hell, it  won't even "squeal like a pig" and make noise without
>>>  an
>>> engine.
>>>
>>> One day your engine is great, the  next day you get a small piece  of
>>> FOD
>>> and
>>> the  engine is garbage.  I have a spare for my   plane.
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested I have 2 engines left to  sell. I will either
>>> put
>>> them on Ebay or sell them to a guy who  uses them for non L-29
>>> purposes.
>>> Years of
>>>  manufacture range from in the 1970's to the  newest in 1983 and  were
>>> overhauled in 1990-1992.  They are in the  fiberglass  storage pods
>>> sealed
>
>>> up in
>>> plastic with desiccant  moisture absorbing  bags.
>>>
>>> Selling them for $3,500  less than the same engines available in the
>>> "northern Mid  West".
>>>
>>> Last  chance!
>>>
>
>
>














________________________________  Message 16  ____________________________________


Time: 07:10:21 PM PST US
From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
Subject: Re: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

Money is money.

----- Original Message -----
From: <SD737@aol....>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines


> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....
>
> It APPEARS that the last two Factory Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines
> will be sold to a NON-aviaton, Non-L-29 buyer later this week.
>
> IF there are any L-29 guys who want one of these engines now is the time
> to
> contact me!!!
>
> I would prefer to see them used for L-29's, but MONEY talks......
>
> Happy Flying,
>
> Scott
>
>
> Two out of 11 engines.  What's left:  1973 & 1982 overhauled  in 1990.
>
>>> HI Guys,
>>>
>>> Started with 11 Factory  Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines and have
>>> 2
>>> left to  sell.
>>> Come with Original Log Books and a tail  pipe.
>>>
>>> One of the Texas guys was flying his L-29 recently  and his compressor
>>> got
>>> hit with some type of unknown FOD
>>>  He sent me pictures and the compressor wheel was shredded which makes
>>> the
>>> engine basically worthless as a powerplant in the  aircraft.
>>> He is coming to Reno to buy a replacement engine TODAY,  February  15th.
>>> These planes are basically big static display  paper weights without a
>>> good
>>> engine.  Hell, it  won't even "squeal like a pig" and make noise without
>>>  an
>>> engine.
>>>
>>> One day your engine is great, the  next day you get a small piece  of
>>> FOD
>>> and
>>> the  engine is garbage.  I have a spare for my   plane.
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested I have 2 engines left to  sell. I will either
>>> put
>>> them on Ebay or sell them to a guy who  uses them for non L-29
>>> purposes.
>>> Years of
>>>  manufacture range from in the 1970's to the  newest in 1983 and  were
>>> overhauled in 1990-1992.  They are in the  fiberglass  storage pods
>>> sealed
>
>>> up in
>>> plastic with desiccant  moisture absorbing  bags.
>>>
>>> Selling them for $3,500  less than the same engines available in the
>>> "northern Mid  West".
>>>
>>> Last  chance!
>>>
>
>
>














________________________________  Message 17  ____________________________________


Time: 11:15:22 PM PST US
From: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: flyin

--> L29-List message posted by: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>

The price at Fox stinks and the management will not deal with you.
Mojave and Cal City have much better price on fuel.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin


--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

California City, if there is a deal on fuel. The manager of gas will
want to
be sure
that we will buy some and fly. Some one should check the price at Fox.
Hotels are close. There are fuel deals if we beg.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin


> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> We are still in from Northern CA, VCB, 4SD and RBL.  Just lets make a
> decision at the middle place between us.  More gas for formation
> flying and training.  Greg  MHV look good to you guys?  check it out
> on  airnav.com We are
> open to any good  airport.
>
>
>













































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