--> L29-List message posted by: "Gary Cole" <ca6209@flas...>

My vote is Kingman.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:00 PM
To: l29-list@matr...
Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L29-List Digest: fly in

--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>

And the 3 Colorado guys??? You remember us, we're the ones that got this all

rolling. That puts us 3 tanks of fuel. $3000. one way.

----- Original Message -----
From: <colyergreg@aol....>
To: <l29-list@matr...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: L29-List: Re: L29-List Digest: fly in


> --> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol....
>
>
> Talking to airport manager.  L71 cal city, about 7 miles from MHV.  Cheap
> Jet A and the manager is getting back to me for a discount price.  This
> seems like it is about the same distance for everybody which give us more
> fuel to fly together.  All of us from Norcal is good with it, let me know
> on the so cal guys.  Thanks
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: L29-List Digest List <l29-list-digest@matr...>
> Sent: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:58:38 -0800
> Subject: L29-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 02/20/06
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>
>     1. 07:36 AM - Re: Help - airspeed sensor  (Colyergreg@aol....)
>     2. 07:49 AM - flyin  (Bill)
>     3. 08:12 AM - Re: flyin  (John Cabrera)
>     4. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
>     5. 08:27 AM - Re: flyin  (Colyergreg@aol....)
>     6. 08:32 AM - Re: flyin  (Colyergreg@aol....)
>     7. 08:39 AM - Re: flyin  (SD737@aol....)
>     8. 09:13 AM - Re: flyin  (fish@avia...)
>     9. 10:37 AM - Re: Help - airspeed sensor  (Jorgen Nielsen)
>    10. 12:54 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
>    11. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
>    12. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (Bill)
>    13. 03:31 PM - Re: Help - airspeed sensor  (Colyergreg@aol....)
>    14. 05:54 PM - LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines  (SD737@aol....)
>    15. 07:05 PM - Re: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines  (Bill)
>    16. 07:10 PM - Re: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines  (Bill)
>    17. 11:15 PM - Re: Re: flyin  (John Cabrera)
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:36:31 AM PST US
> From: Colyergreg@aol....
> Subject: Re: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> Jorgen,
>   I have the factory mach meter, but I use a F-86 airspeed  indicator
> which
> has Knots 50-700 and mach.  but it is just static and  pitot.  the factory
> mach meter is attached to the yellow sensor for the  flaps up under the
> left
> side
>
> of the panel (on the lower inside of the nose  wall.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:49:45 AM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Did you all decide where to go or did we lose interest? Or run out of
> money just
> thinking about it?
>
> I have 2 guys that want formation training. So I need to tell them which
> way to
> point the nose.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:12:33 AM PST US
> From: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
> Subject: RE: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
>
> I am still in.  One way or another I am flying that weekend.
> Even if its just by myself.
> John..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:50 AM
> Subject: L29-List: flyin
>
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Did you all decide where to go or did we lose interest? Or run out of
> money just thinking about it?
>
> I have 2 guys that want formation training. So I need to tell them which
> way to point the nose.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:20:14 AM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: Re: RE: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Formation will be easier! Not much safer, but easier.
> If I can in touch with P.J., I'll come out and we can fly formation.
> I still need your address to send the formation manual.
> Send it to my czech6 address.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:12 AM
> Subject: RE: L29-List: flyin
>
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
>>
>> I am still in.  One way or another I am flying that weekend.
>> Even if its just by myself.
>> John..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:27:49 AM PST US
> From: Colyergreg@aol....
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> We are still in from Northern CA, VCB, 4SD and RBL.  Just lets make a
> decision at the middle place between us.  More gas for formation flying
> and
> training.  Greg  MHV look good to you guys?  check it out on  airnav.com
> We
> are
>
> open to any good  airport.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:32:34 AM PST US
> From: Colyergreg@aol....
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so I
> will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:39:42 AM PST US
> From: SD737@aol....
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....
>
> Kingman still works for me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:13:18 AM PST US
> From: fish@avia...
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...
>
>
> Several years ago, Mojave charged CJAA more for fuel then regular fly-in
> customers.
> I would suggest California City Airport (L71) is about 5 min away and has
> the
> best fuel prices locally (and I am sure the manager will work with you).
>
> We currently do not have a hotel, so you would need to stay in mojave
> (unless
> you want to sleep on my couch and floor).
>
> If you need tools for repairs, I have a hanger full of tools to make
> repairs.
>
>
> Contact:
> Tom Weil - Airport manager
> (760) 373-4867
>
> Fly Safe
> John Fischer
> Cell (818) 257-0911
> California City, CA
>
>
>
>>--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>>
>>look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so I
>
>>will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:37:06 AM PST US
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb...>
> Subject: RE: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb...>
>
> Thanks Greg.
>
> Sounds good.  My air speed indicator show indicated airspeed, true
> airspeed
> (or equivalent) and mach number.
>
> The electronics side is curious.  I do not have the yellow sensor, that is
> now all done by the air speed indocator.
>
> Do you have wiring details for yellow box?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of
> Colyergreg@aol....
> Sent: 20 February 2006 05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> Jorgen,
>   I have the factory mach meter, but I use a F-86 airspeed  indicator
> which
> has Knots 50-700 and mach.  but it is just static and  pitot.  the factory
> mach meter is attached to the yellow sensor for the  flaps up under the
> left
> side of the panel (on the lower inside of the nose  wall.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:54:12 PM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Kingman.
> Boulder City.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <fish@avia...>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...
>>
>>
>> Several years ago, Mojave charged CJAA more for fuel then regular fly-in
>> customers.
>> I would suggest California City Airport (L71) is about 5 min away and has
>> the
>> best fuel prices locally (and I am sure the manager will work with you).
>>
>> We currently do not have a hotel, so you would need to stay in mojave
>> (unless
>> you want to sleep on my couch and floor).
>>
>> If you need tools for repairs, I have a hanger full of tools to make
>> repairs.
>>
>>
>> Contact:
>> Tom Weil - Airport manager
>> (760) 373-4867
>>
>> Fly Safe
>> John Fischer
>> Cell (818) 257-0911
>> California City, CA
>>
>>
>>>--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>>>
>>>look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so
>>>I
>>
>>>will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:55:39 PM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Kingman
> Boulder City (61B) plenty of Hotels in Vegas area.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <fish@avia...>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: fish@avia...
>>
>>
>> Several years ago, Mojave charged CJAA more for fuel then regular fly-in
>> customers.
>> I would suggest California City Airport (L71) is about 5 min away and has
>> the
>> best fuel prices locally (and I am sure the manager will work with you).
>>
>> We currently do not have a hotel, so you would need to stay in mojave
>> (unless
>> you want to sleep on my couch and floor).
>>
>> If you need tools for repairs, I have a hanger full of tools to make
>> repairs.
>>
>>
>> Contact:
>> Tom Weil - Airport manager
>> (760) 373-4867
>>
>> Fly Safe
>> John Fischer
>> Cell (818) 257-0911
>> California City, CA
>>
>>
>>>--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>>>
>>>look up MHV on airnav.com and let us know if this works for you?  If  so
>>>I
>>
>>>will get the hotel and work a deal on fuel for  us....Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:32:56 PM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> California City, if there is a deal on fuel. The manager of gas will want
> to
> be sure
> that we will buy some and fly. Some one should check the price at Fox.
> Hotels are close. There are fuel deals if we beg.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>>
>> We are still in from Northern CA, VCB, 4SD and RBL.  Just lets make a
>> decision at the middle place between us.  More gas for formation flying
>> and
>> training.  Greg  MHV look good to you guys?  check it out on  airnav.com
>> We are
>> open to any good  airport.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:31:49 PM PST US
> From: Colyergreg@aol....
> Subject: Re: L29-List: Help - airspeed sensor
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
>
> I will look...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:54:39 PM PST US
> From: SD737@aol....
> Subject: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....
>
> It APPEARS that the last two Factory Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines
> will be sold to a NON-aviaton, Non-L-29 buyer later this week.
>
> IF there are any L-29 guys who want one of these engines now is the time
> to
> contact me!!!
>
> I would prefer to see them used for L-29's, but MONEY talks......
>
> Happy Flying,
>
> Scott
>
>
> Two out of 11 engines.  What's left:  1973 & 1982 overhauled  in 1990.
>
>>> HI Guys,
>>>
>>> Started with 11 Factory  Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines and have
>>> 2
>>> left to  sell.
>>> Come with Original Log Books and a tail  pipe.
>>>
>>> One of the Texas guys was flying his L-29 recently  and his compressor
>>> got
>>> hit with some type of unknown FOD
>>>  He sent me pictures and the compressor wheel was shredded which makes
>>> the
>>> engine basically worthless as a powerplant in the  aircraft.
>>> He is coming to Reno to buy a replacement engine TODAY,  February  15th.
>>> These planes are basically big static display  paper weights without a
>>> good
>>> engine.  Hell, it  won't even "squeal like a pig" and make noise without
>>>  an
>>> engine.
>>>
>>> One day your engine is great, the  next day you get a small piece  of
>>> FOD
>>> and
>>> the  engine is garbage.  I have a spare for my   plane.
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested I have 2 engines left to  sell. I will either
>>> put
>>> them on Ebay or sell them to a guy who  uses them for non L-29
>>> purposes.
>>> Years of
>>>  manufacture range from in the 1970's to the  newest in 1983 and  were
>>> overhauled in 1990-1992.  They are in the  fiberglass  storage pods
>>> sealed
>
>>> up in
>>> plastic with desiccant  moisture absorbing  bags.
>>>
>>> Selling them for $3,500  less than the same engines available in the
>>> "northern Mid  West".
>>>
>>> Last  chance!
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:05:13 PM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: Re: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Money is money.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <SD737@aol....>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:05 PM
> Subject: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines
>
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....
>>
>> It APPEARS that the last two Factory Overhauled Zero Time M701-500
>> engines
>> will be sold to a NON-aviaton, Non-L-29 buyer later this week.
>>
>> IF there are any L-29 guys who want one of these engines now is the time
>> to
>> contact me!!!
>>
>> I would prefer to see them used for L-29's, but MONEY talks......
>>
>> Happy Flying,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> Two out of 11 engines.  What's left:  1973 & 1982 overhauled  in 1990.
>>
>>>> HI Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Started with 11 Factory  Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines and have
>>>> 2
>>>> left to  sell.
>>>> Come with Original Log Books and a tail  pipe.
>>>>
>>>> One of the Texas guys was flying his L-29 recently  and his compressor
>>>> got
>>>> hit with some type of unknown FOD
>>>>  He sent me pictures and the compressor wheel was shredded which makes
>>>> the
>>>> engine basically worthless as a powerplant in the  aircraft.
>>>> He is coming to Reno to buy a replacement engine TODAY,  February
>>>> 15th.
>>>> These planes are basically big static display  paper weights without a
>>>> good
>>>> engine.  Hell, it  won't even "squeal like a pig" and make noise
>>>> without
>>>>  an
>>>> engine.
>>>>
>>>> One day your engine is great, the  next day you get a small piece  of
>>>> FOD
>>>> and
>>>> the  engine is garbage.  I have a spare for my   plane.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is interested I have 2 engines left to  sell. I will either
>>>> put
>>>> them on Ebay or sell them to a guy who  uses them for non L-29
>>>> purposes.
>>>> Years of
>>>>  manufacture range from in the 1970's to the  newest in 1983 and  were
>>>> overhauled in 1990-1992.  They are in the  fiberglass  storage pods
>>>> sealed
>>
>>>> up in
>>>> plastic with desiccant  moisture absorbing  bags.
>>>>
>>>> Selling them for $3,500  less than the same engines available in the
>>>> "northern Mid  West".
>>>>
>>>> Last  chance!
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 16
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:10:21 PM PST US
> From: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
> Subject: Re: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kell...>
>
> Money is money.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <SD737@aol....>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:05 PM
> Subject: L29-List: LAST CALL- M701-500 Engines
>
>
>> --> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol....
>>
>> It APPEARS that the last two Factory Overhauled Zero Time M701-500
>> engines
>> will be sold to a NON-aviaton, Non-L-29 buyer later this week.
>>
>> IF there are any L-29 guys who want one of these engines now is the time
>> to
>> contact me!!!
>>
>> I would prefer to see them used for L-29's, but MONEY talks......
>>
>> Happy Flying,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> Two out of 11 engines.  What's left:  1973 & 1982 overhauled  in 1990.
>>
>>>> HI Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Started with 11 Factory  Overhauled Zero Time M701-500 engines and have
>>>> 2
>>>> left to  sell.
>>>> Come with Original Log Books and a tail  pipe.
>>>>
>>>> One of the Texas guys was flying his L-29 recently  and his compressor
>>>> got
>>>> hit with some type of unknown FOD
>>>>  He sent me pictures and the compressor wheel was shredded which makes
>>>> the
>>>> engine basically worthless as a powerplant in the  aircraft.
>>>> He is coming to Reno to buy a replacement engine TODAY,  February
>>>> 15th.
>>>> These planes are basically big static display  paper weights without a
>>>> good
>>>> engine.  Hell, it  won't even "squeal like a pig" and make noise
>>>> without
>>>>  an
>>>> engine.
>>>>
>>>> One day your engine is great, the  next day you get a small piece  of
>>>> FOD
>>>> and
>>>> the  engine is garbage.  I have a spare for my   plane.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is interested I have 2 engines left to  sell. I will either
>>>> put
>>>> them on Ebay or sell them to a guy who  uses them for non L-29
>>>> purposes.
>>>> Years of
>>>>  manufacture range from in the 1970's to the  newest in 1983 and  were
>>>> overhauled in 1990-1992.  They are in the  fiberglass  storage pods
>>>> sealed
>>
>>>> up in
>>>> plastic with desiccant  moisture absorbing  bags.
>>>>
>>>> Selling them for $3,500  less than the same engines available in the
>>>> "northern Mid  West".
>>>>
>>>> Last  chance!
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 17
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:15:22 PM PST US
> From: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
> Subject: RE: Re: L29-List: flyin
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: "John Cabrera" <propblast@eart...>
>
> The price at Fox stinks and the management will not deal with you.
> Mojave and Cal City have much better price on fuel.
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> John.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-l29-list-server@matr...
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matr...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: L29-List: flyin
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> California City, if there is a deal on fuel. The manager of gas will
> want to
> be sure
> that we will buy some and fly. Some one should check the price at Fox.
> Hotels are close. There are fuel deals if we beg.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Colyergreg@aol....>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: flyin
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol....
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>> We are still in from Northern CA, VCB, 4SD and RBL.  Just lets make a
>> decision at the middle place between us.  More gas for formation
>> flying and training.  Greg  MHV look good to you guys?  check it out
>> on  airnav.com We are
>> open to any good  airport.
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