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m : marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu 30 March 2011 • 7:58AM -0400

Re: [Marxism] Question re Laurie Penney rant and London demo
by Louis Proyect

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On 3/29/11 7:13 PM, Kenneth Morgan wrote
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> 1. Is your disagreement with only those who engaged in trashing property, or
> also with those who engaged in the non-violent civil disobedience?

Apparently there is not exact clarity between the people Laurie Penny
was defending and the black block intervention. It has been a long time
since I paid attention to anarchist foolishness but you had the same
kind of porous borders between the white bloc (essentially the UNCUT
activists) and the more hardened, open to police spies, black bloc
activists.

> 2. Do you disagree with the  violent civil disobedience in general, or that
> this tactic was out of place for this particular event?

I am generally opposed to "symbolic" protests that are aimed at the
masses as if they were an audience at a Broadway play. The whole idea is
to get the working people to take the stage themselves.

> I raise these questions because the non-violent, that is non violent until
> the cops became violent, civil disobedience was a key event in the Seattle
> actions of 1999.

After Seattle, there were attempts to keep repeating chaotic and violent
street confrontations in the vain hope that they would destroy
capitalism, whereas in fact the only thing that got destroyed was anarchism.




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