My point is it's not a human rights / freedom of speech issue - it's
about quality.
You know, the subject of this mailing list.
Ian

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Ian Glendinning
<ian.glendinning@gmai...> wrote:
> Agreed Marsha.
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:03 AM, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> After hearing a discussion/debate on an NPR station, I called the two CT senators requesting they not sign either bill, but negotiate and craft better legislation.  Phoning was a small enough action, but more powerful than just holding an opinion.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning@gmai...> wrote:
>>
>>> Rubbish.
>>>
>>> YouTube and Wikipedia already carefully enforce IP Copyrights.
>>>
>>> The state has always been / is always able to enforce laws, including
>>> preventing law-breakers from operating illegally. Everyone is free to
>>> break the law, they just need to take responsibility for the
>>> consequences.
>>>
>>> These are just very badly drafted bills that need some practical
>>> negotiation, but the principle is sound.
>>> IP Copyrights need to be fairly enforceable on the internet across
>>> national borders.
>>>
>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=4099
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16623831
>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=4063
>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=4059
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Tuukka Virtaperko
>>> <mail@tuuk...> wrote:
>>>> You are asking.
>>>>
>>>> The law will make State able to close YouTube, Facebook, Wikipedia and
>>>> others at will.
>>>>
>>>> Never.
>>>>
>>>> -Tuukka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 19.1.2012 5:02, Ian Glendinning kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>>> As a matter of interest Tuukka, what is your view of SOPA / PIPA ?
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Tuukka Virtaperko
>>>>> <mail@tuuk...>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you realize this stuff is happening in your home country?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/31100268
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Tuukka
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