Mark,

What you think is what you think.  


Marsha



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On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:17 PM, 118 <ununoctiums@gmai...> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> I do not place the concept of patterns above Self.  This is demeaning in my view.  Patterns are just an intellectual construct, and we are more than just intellect in my view.
>
> Oh, and in my garage it is Ormus.  Google it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
> Mark
>
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> In my understanding there is no homunculus to be a mystic.  As I have stated many times before, it is my understanding that within the MoQ, the  
>> “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent, impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
>>
>> So how could someone BE a mystic?  Maybe by Dave Harding's pronouncement?  I don't think so.  BUt fhow about you?  What kind of transformation are you working towards in your garage?  
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, 118 wrote:
>>
>>> Marsha,
>>> You CAN be a mystic if you want to.  It simply takes effort.  Look to
>>> Buddhist training.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> I am not a mystic.  And on what basis, other some a trumped up conceptual
>>>> construct, do you call me such a thing?  You're full of baloney...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:27 AM, David Harding <davidjharding@gmai...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you call Marsha names such as an 'eel in the bucket'? I get that
>>>>> she is frustrating because she doesn't want to accept that sq is old,
>>>>> fixed and complex.  But she is right in the end no? Ultimately things
>>>>> aren't static.  I call her a Mystic because I try and point out that a
>>>>> person who denies they are ruining the undefinable ultimate reality with
>>>>> fixed definitions, is still defining. They are called Mystics. But they're
>>>>> not wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Metaphysics of Quality expands our mystical understanding of the
>>>>> universe.  It isn't in direct opposition to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Curiously,
>>>>>
>>>>> -David.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/01/2012, at 6:15 AM, Andre wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>> Brilliant Marsha...absolutely/relatively brilliant!!! The typical
>>>>>> response of an eel in the bucket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hives.html
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