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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 25 January 2012 • 1:49AM -0500

Re: [MD] The first cut.
by david buchanan

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Andre said to Marsha:
... I am sure dmb will respond in due course (sigh) but I would suggest that your muddling with DQ/sq caused your own confusion. You  want to 'analyze what gives direction to static quality'? What does dmb have to do to answer a question which is only a problem in your own head? Quote both ZMM and LILA IN FULL?!!


dmb says:
Actually, I don't think Marsha's objections merit any kind of response.  She can't (or won't) deal the evidence or the reasons. She's apparently unable to grasp the main concepts or the main purpose of the MOQ. Pirsig's aim is an expansion of rationality at its roots but Marsha does nothing but confuse and undermine that aim. As everyone just saw, I presented five different quotes from Pirsig that make this point but Marsha was unpersuaded. This only shows that unreasonable people are not persuaded by reasons. Some folks are so unreasonable, in fact, that they sincerely feel persecuted by reasons and evidence or even see its presentation as some kind of dirty trick.


delusion |diˈloō zh ən|nounan idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder : the delusion of being watched.


paranoia |ˌparəˈnoiə|nouna mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.


"No, he did nothing for Quality or the Tao.  What benefited was reason. He showed a way by which reason may be expanded to include elements that have previously been unassimilable and thus have been considered irrational." (ZAMM, p. 257)

"But now we have with us some concepts that greatly alter the whole understanding of things. Quality is the Buddha. Quality is scientific reality. Quality is the goal of Art." (ZAMM, p. 276)

"I want to show that that classic pattern of rationality can be tremendously improved, expanded and made far more effective through the formal recognition of Quality in its operation." (ZAMM, p. 278)


     
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