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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 26 January 2012 • 12:52AM -0500

Re: [MD] The first cut.
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Hi Marsha,

I guess I am a dancing penguin.  I can live with that, so long as you
are entertained by it.

Mark

On 1/25/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>
> Greetings Mark,
>
> Your questions...  If I glance in the direction of sq, then you dance, flap
> your wings, and warble on with questions about DQ.  If I glance in the
> direction of DQ, then you dance, flap your wings, and warble on with
> questions about sq.  Hahahaha...
>
> Save the sarcasm, it's too easy to forget.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:07 PM, 118 <ununoctiums@gmai...> wrote:
>
>> Marsha,
>> Is what I smell what I smell?  What a novel concept you are
>> presenting, I will have to remember that one.
>>
>> Is what you think not what you thinK?  Just wondering... Or, is what
>> you think RELATIVE to what I think?  That would be interesting...We
>> could explore how your relativism works here.  Or perhaps you have
>> dropped that nonsense.  No reply needed, Please!
>>
>> Thank you for the rhetorical enlightenment.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> What you think is what you think.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:17 PM, 118 <ununoctiums@gmai...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> I do not place the concept of patterns above Self.  This is demeaning in
>>>> my view.  Patterns are just an intellectual construct, and we are more
>>>> than just intellect in my view.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and in my garage it is Ormus.  Google it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> In my understanding there is no homunculus to be a mystic.  As I have
>>>>> stated many times before, it is my understanding that within the MoQ,
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent,
>>>>> impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic,
>>>>> biological,
>>>>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> So how could someone BE a mystic?  Maybe by Dave Harding's
>>>>> pronouncement?
>>>>> I don't think so.  BUt fhow about you?  What kind of transformation are
>>>>> you working towards in your garage?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha,
>>>>>> You CAN be a mystic if you want to.  It simply takes effort.  Look to
>>>>>> Buddhist training.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not a mystic.  And on what basis, other some a trumped up
>>>>>>> conceptual
>>>>>>> construct, do you call me such a thing?  You're full of baloney...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:27 AM, David Harding <davidjharding@gmai...>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you call Marsha names such as an 'eel in the bucket'? I get
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> she is frustrating because she doesn't want to accept that sq is
>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>> fixed and complex.  But she is right in the end no? Ultimately
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> aren't static.  I call her a Mystic because I try and point out that
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> person who denies they are ruining the undefinable ultimate reality
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> fixed definitions, is still defining. They are called Mystics. But
>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>> not wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Metaphysics of Quality expands our mystical understanding of the
>>>>>>>> universe.  It isn't in direct opposition to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Curiously,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/01/2012, at 6:15 AM, Andre wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>>>>> Brilliant Marsha...absolutely/relatively brilliant!!! The typical
>>>>>>>>> response of an eel in the bucket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hives.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
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