Mark,

Not always.  Sometimes your style seems more like argumentum verbosum rather than a sincere attempt at understanding "my metaphysics".  Too many questions coming from too many directions to seem sincere, but I don't know for sure so in fairness I try to answer them, just to have you respond by sending a ton more.  Really Mark?  And I'm sure every other poster rolling their eyes in disgust.  Really Mark?  Such a clever lad...  

Now I think I'll end for the day.  

Thanks


Marsha


Sent from my iPad

On Jan 25, 2012, at 11:52 AM, 118 <ununoctiums@gmai...> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
>
> I guess I am a dancing penguin.  I can live with that, so long as you
> are entertained by it.
>
> Mark
>
> On 1/25/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings Mark,
>>
>> Your questions...  If I glance in the direction of sq, then you dance, flap
>> your wings, and warble on with questions about DQ.  If I glance in the
>> direction of DQ, then you dance, flap your wings, and warble on with
>> questions about sq.  Hahahaha...
>>
>> Save the sarcasm, it's too easy to forget.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:07 PM, 118 <ununoctiums@gmai...> wrote:
>>
>>> Marsha,
>>> Is what I smell what I smell?  What a novel concept you are
>>> presenting, I will have to remember that one.
>>>
>>> Is what you think not what you thinK?  Just wondering... Or, is what
>>> you think RELATIVE to what I think?  That would be interesting...We
>>> could explore how your relativism works here.  Or perhaps you have
>>> dropped that nonsense.  No reply needed, Please!
>>>
>>> Thank you for the rhetorical enlightenment.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> What you think is what you think.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:17 PM, 118 <ununoctiums@gmai...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>> I do not place the concept of patterns above Self.  This is demeaning in
>>>>> my view.  Patterns are just an intellectual construct, and we are more
>>>>> than just intellect in my view.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and in my garage it is Ormus.  Google it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my understanding there is no homunculus to be a mystic.  As I have
>>>>>> stated many times before, it is my understanding that within the MoQ,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent,
>>>>>> impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic,
>>>>>> biological,
>>>>>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So how could someone BE a mystic?  Maybe by Dave Harding's
>>>>>> pronouncement?
>>>>>> I don't think so.  BUt fhow about you?  What kind of transformation are
>>>>>> you working towards in your garage?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marsha,
>>>>>>> You CAN be a mystic if you want to.  It simply takes effort.  Look to
>>>>>>> Buddhist training.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not a mystic.  And on what basis, other some a trumped up
>>>>>>>> conceptual
>>>>>>>> construct, do you call me such a thing?  You're full of baloney...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:27 AM, David Harding <davidjharding@gmai...>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you call Marsha names such as an 'eel in the bucket'? I get
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> she is frustrating because she doesn't want to accept that sq is
>>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>>> fixed and complex.  But she is right in the end no? Ultimately
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> aren't static.  I call her a Mystic because I try and point out that
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> person who denies they are ruining the undefinable ultimate reality
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> fixed definitions, is still defining. They are called Mystics. But
>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>> not wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Metaphysics of Quality expands our mystical understanding of the
>>>>>>>>> universe.  It isn't in direct opposition to it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Curiously,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23/01/2012, at 6:15 AM, Andre wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant Marsha...absolutely/relatively brilliant!!! The typical
>>>>>>>>>> response of an eel in the bucket.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hives.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>>>>>> Archives:
>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>>>>> Archives:
>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>>>> Archives:
>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>>>>
>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>>> Archives:
>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>> Moq_Discuss mailing list
>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
>> Archives:
>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>>
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
Moq_Discuss mailing list
Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
Archives:
http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
http://moq.org/md/archives.html