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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 28 January 2012 • 6:13AM -0500

Re: [MD] The first cut.
by Joseph Maurer

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Hi Ham and All,

MOQ does not describe an immutable, indefinable, unlimited source in
existence.  It describes evolution an indefinable/definable reality in
levels in existence. The evolution of levels in existence is a proper
metaphysical concern.  Faith exploring Existence beyond the known existing
is unrelated to the metaphysical question answered in DQ/SQ metaphysics
which only describes the perceivable existing.

Evolution describes a process for conceptualizing levels in existence.
Evolution seems to be a proper way to examine differences embracing
individuality when discussing indefinable/definable metaphysics DQ/SQ.
Evolution is not infinite by definition, since it is restricted to levels in
existence, reality!

What term is indefinable? DQ!  In seeking a description for DQ I accept
evolution in existence.  I suggest emotions are DQ.  They become a bridge
for further knowledge DQ/SQ, indefinable/definable.

It seems strange that evolution flows from the simpler DQ emotions to the
more complex DQ/SQ intellectual.  The complex increases doubt in what I
know.  To go from emotional DQ to intellectual DQ/SQ, is a backward step in
certainty.  It is from the simple I feel to the more complex prove it. From
I know what I feel to I am unsure what I know and I have to have proof. I
have to look for reasons.

I accept that the reality  DQ begs a question of Faith in an existence
beyond the perceivable.  There is no doubt as well as no certainty that I
will be alive tomorrow.  Faith is about the incomprehensible!  This is
different from the indefinable DQ in existence.

I am content to look at reality in a perspective DQ/SQ.  DQ/SQ
indefinable/definable reality, not non-existent/existent reality which
places reality beyond logic requiring Faith for comprehension!  Maybe in an
upper atmosphere of reality SQ becomes less required.  Baby steps!

Joe


On 1/26/12 11:47 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampday1@veri...> wrote:

> My advice to you (as it would be to Joe) is to avoid associating "process"
> with Creation, at least until you are describing it from the human
> perspective.  Keep in mind that the Source is immutable, which means that,
> metaphysically, creation is unrelated to time or change.


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