Hi Joe,
As it has been said, any depiction of anything is analogy.  All we can
go by is the picture that is made in our heads that is a
representation of the real thing.  We have no idea what lies behind
anything that we analogize with sq, this includes sq.  So, DQ, sq, a
motorcycle, they are all analogies formed by our selective and
somewhat limited perception.  They are simply part of the fabric of
our heads.  Did you know that according to quantum physics a
motorcycle extends to infinity?  Sure does not seem that way to me.  I
prefer my analogy where I don't have to worry about getting hit by a
motorcycle that is in Argentina.   The nonsense analogies that they
come up with like, did you know that a table is mostly empty space?
What a stupid analogy.  They must be afraid to put their dinners on
it.

Those physicists can be so silly sometimes.  And then they take
themselves so seriously.  Now we have NASA acting like Nostradamus and
predicting global warming and disaster for all of mankind, perhaps
even a second coming to boot.  Don't we have enough with the "normal"
prophets that we need yet another one that we have to spend good money
for?  I call them NASAtradamus.  They have their special boiling pots
that they look into and tell our fortunes.  Of course it is always
death and destruction for what else could be interesting and money
making?

That is my analogy for all the hysteria these days!  DOOM, DOOM, DOOM!
The sky is falling, let's gather people up and put them in
fluorescently lit houses to protect them!  Let's starve them of energy
so that they do not destroy themselves!  Regulate the very air that
comes from them!  Yes, everybody must be strapped in their cars
because we said so. Those citizens have no idea what they are doing
and what is good for them.  They need more discipline.  Where is the
whip?  Some good thrashing is in order.

Be Good,
Mark, the Evangelist.

On 2/2/12, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau@comc...> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> This is the way I conceive DQ!
>
> IMHO There can be no conception of DQ alone.  Evolution is DQ/SQ.  When I
> place DQ in a sentence I am embodying reality in a concept SQ which is
> definable, and is only DQ by analogy.  Evolution already has occurred.  DQ
> is only analogous.  There are no words for DQ.
>
> Placing DQ in the beginning mind of consciousness in metaphysics is analogy
> since it is indefinable.  DQ is analogous to faith in an individual.  What
> is logic?  Logic follows evolution.  DQ is perceptible and I am responsible
> for my actions.  Evolution sniffs the trail of DQ.
>
> There are a whole lot of analogies in metaphysics, but woe to the person of
> physics who feels he can conceive indefinable DQ.
>
> Hopefully the consciousness that responds to DQ has done a lot of homework
> otherwise physics and metaphysics are in the same boat.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 2/2/12 1:27 PM, "David Harding" <davidjharding@gmai...> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>>
>>>> I think consciousness is ability to respond to DQ. What's wrong with
>>>> this
>>>> definition?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> Making a thing of DQ so I can respond to it changes the metaphysics of
>>> DQ/SQ
>>> where SQ represents the 'thing' by definition.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> That static quality 'responds' to DQ doesn't change the fact that DQ is
>> undefined. For if new ideas don't come from DQ where do they come from?
>>
>> Consciousness is some thing which is able to change patterns and make them
>> better.  Of course once we recognise anything is better it is static
>> quality
>> and no longer the source of all things.
>>
>> -David.
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