There is a meditation technique where you watch of the stream of thoughts (bits and pieces of pattern) going through your mind without attaching to the them. I have never been able to watch the watcher so there is nothing to say about that experience.
> Mark says "touch your nose". It is as simple as that. Of course you
> would say that you do not have a nose, but that the stream has them.
> To that I say, "stream touch your nose". I feel like I am posting to
> a ghost of some kind. Do you come out at night? Are you kind of wavy
> and spooky? Are you one of those Dean Koontz characters?
> Besides, when you say "if you watch the stream..", what do you mean by
> that? Is there a "you" that can actually watch the stream? You seem
> to contradict yourself in a single paragraph. At least get your story
> straight. Is there something that can watch the stream or isn't
> there? Is it one big tangle of nothing at all? And if it is nothing
> at all, then why do you post about it? Nothing comes from Nothing, as
> they say. Wisper me sweet nothings...
> You are starting to worry me. Perhaps you really are an algorithm,
> constantly mutating like a computer virus in a mindless way. Perhaps
> there is no ghost in that machine. WAKE UP! Is there anybody in
> there? Perhaps it is impossible to do mindfulness if there is nothing
> to do it. That would explain a lot. Let go of all that baloney, if
> just for a moment. You are free of patterns! You are nothing more or
> less than you. You do not need any excuses.
> The Devil made me do it. Those gosh darn manipulative patterns.
> Kind regards,
> On 2/3/12, MarshaV <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>> Marsha says what can be found, first-hand, is a continuous, stream of
>> experiences, but not an independent, inherently-existing, substantial self
>> that is calling the shots. And if you watch the stream of experiences, you
>> find that the stream is made up of discontinuous bits and pieces of patterns
>> with associated feelings, perceptions, motivation and awareness.
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