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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 5 February 2012 • 5:06AM -0500

Re: [MD] What is consciousness?
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Hi David,
That all sounds reasonable to me.  Now let's see if I can use it.  More later...

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:42 PM, David Harding <davidjharding@gmai...> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>>>>> I think consciousness is ability to respond to DQ. What's wrong with
>>>>> this definition?
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>> If consciousness is the ability to respond to DQ, would this make
>> consciousness sq, or is it DQ responding to DQ? Or is it something
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> Consciousness is sq which can respond to DQ. Being something that can be defined - it is static quality. But it is static quality that can get 'better' as a result of responding to DQ. So the trick here is that it is always on reflection that things are better; thus the only way to truly 'know' what consciousness is, is to be conscious yourself.
>> When we respond to DQ, does this form consciousness or is consciouness
>> something we use to create a response to DQ?
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> Neither. I would say it isn't 'something we use'. It is the 'using' itself which is our consciousness. This consciousness of ours will either manifest itself as old static quality or new, better static quality. But the only way the better static quality can appear is from something which can respond to DQ ( is conscious ).  
>> What is the nature of
>> this response, is it simply ability?
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> Exactly. It is an ability to respond to DQ. If something responds to DQ then it will manifest itself as new sq.
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>> If consciousness is an ability, what is it that gives home to that
>> ability? That is, what uses that ability?
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> So why are we conscious? What started this whole consciousness thing? To me, consciousness is living. If you're not conscious you're not alive. So why are we alive?  Well, it's better than nothing yeah? :-)
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> -David.
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