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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 26 February 2012 • 12:47PM -0500

[MD] Tweaking the emergence
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Mark, all,
Dave at LS said that contrary to what Pirsig says, his way of  
arranging the levels is not usual. The usual way of arranging them is  
physical-chemical-biological-social. He didn't cite a source or I  
missed it (haven't read lists actively lately), but I don't find that  
essential.

In order to evaluate whether Dave's suggestion is better, I would need  
to know more about the human brain. Can the human cognitive experience  
distinguish between /electric/ and /chemical/ changes in the state of  
the brain, at least roughly? For example, it seems plausible that  
sensory experiences are electric, but even though emotions too are  
electric, they can be meaningfully approximated as chemical states of  
the brain, unlike sensations such as vision or pain.

If this distinction can be made, Dave could be right. In this case we  
could do away with the problem in the social-intellectual distinction.  
RP would provide eight additional levels for intellect, so intellect  
won't become inexplicable, if we combine Dave's suggestion with RP.

-Tuukka
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