Hi Tuukka,
The main lesson from the Diamond Sutra is to be compassionate to all
sentient beings, in my opinion.  All this conventional truth stuff is
just a smoke screen for self indulgence, not very Buddhist.  Nagarjuna
believed that the best way to teach Buddhism was to abolish the sense
of Self.  He was wrong, of course, because that is an anathema for the
West.  I suppose it worked for him so he thought it should work for
everybody.  This was rather simplistic thinking in my opinion.  Of
course I am no where near as smart as Nagarjuna, so I can say these
ignorant things.

Mark

On 3/1/12, Tuukka Virtaperko <mail@tuuk...> wrote:
> Mark,
>> Tuukka,
>> At every moment of our existence, we are involved in creation.  We are
>> the big bang; we are the intelligent of the intelligent design; we are
>> complicit in the way things unfold.  This is not a manifestation of
>> SOM, in fact it is "anti-SOM.  It is not a figure of speech it is an
>> appreciation of reality at each and every moment.
>
> Tuukka:
> Okay, I already know that and am not interested of it right now. Good to
> have that sorted out. But according to the Diamond Sutra, stuff like
> that is precisely a figure of speech - that is "ultimate truth" as
> opposed to "conventional truth". The good thing about "conventional
> truth" is that such things actually have a defined meaning. Nagarjuna
> probably provides a template for arguing my point to be right. I'm not
> currently interested in that debate, and it's fine with me that we agree
> to disagree on this for now.
>
> -Tuukka
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