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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 2 April 2012 • 1:15AM -0400

Re: [MD] Tuukka's letter to Robert Pirsig
by david buchanan

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Tuukka said:

... Pirsig seems to have missed, that subjective value patterns require subjective descriptions, and objective value patterns require objective description. RMP says in SODV, that the social pattern would be subjective, but all descriptions of the social pattern, that he presents in LILA, are objective. What is subjective in that kind of social quality? Same goes for intellectual quality.

dmb says:
Pirsig sure is lucky to have you to point out what he missed.



Tuukka also said:
...The conceptual scope of SOQ is the same as the scope of LILA, but it has more content which is more clearly expressed. In SOQ, both classical and romantic quality are forms of static quality.



dmb says:
Pirsig sure is lucky to have your added content and clarity.

As you may have guessed, I'm being sarcastic. I think that you're being totally unrealistic, Tuukka. Where did you get the idea that you can teach Pirsig or McWatt about the MOQ? Frankly, I think your letter to Pirsig is a symptom.      
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