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m : moq_discuss@lists.moqtalk.org 1 May 2012 • 5:37AM -0400

Re: [MD] Tuukka's letter to Robert Pirsig
by Joseph Maurer

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Hi Tuukka and All,

Color coding (the blue box) will not distinguish DQ from SQ.  There can be
no defined process in apprehending indefinable DQ. DQ remains indefinable
and knowable.  The intellect monitors definitions.

E.G., Emotions are DQ, indefinable.  Is it possible to describe emotions in
movement by analogy. e.g. Flood of emotions?

It is intriguing to me that appealing to indefinable emotions as womanly
bypasses definition.  It is not good for man to be alone.

Subjective is not a good choice since it is definable in an individual.
Emotions evolve.  Evolution is an emotional perception.  Later it is defined
in a logical intellectual conception.  The reality of emotions remains
indefinable.


On 4/1/12 9:48 AM, "Tuukka Virtaperko" <mail@tuuk...> wrote:

> Subjective quality (the blue box), which was present in ZAMM, is absent
> in LILA. Pirsig seems to have missed, that subjective value patterns
> require subjective descriptions, and objective value patterns require
> objective description. RMP says in SODV, that the social pattern would
> be subjective, but all descriptions of the social pattern, that he
> presents in LILA, are objective. What is subjective in that kind of
> social quality? Same goes for intellectual quality.


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