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On 6/2/12 2:27 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr@att....> wrote:

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> On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau@comc...> wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
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>> "The world comes to us in an endless stream of puzzle pieces that we would
>> like to think all fit together some how, but that in fact never do.  There
>> are always some pieces like platypi that don't fit and we can either ignore
>> these pieces or we can give them silly explanations or we can take the whole
>> puzzle apart and try other ways of assembling it that will include more of
>> them.  When one takes the whole ill-shaped, misfitting structure of a
>> subject-object explained universe apart and puts it back together in a
>> value-centered metaphysics, all kinds of orphaned puzzle pieces fit
>> beautifully that never fit before.
>>
>>    (Lila, Chapter 8)
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>> On 6/2/12 12:15 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr@att....> wrote:
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>>> Hi Joe,
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>>> "The Metaphysics of Quality subscribes to what is called empiricism. It
>>> claims
>>> that all legitimate human knowledge arises from the senses or by thinking
>>> about what the senses provide. Most empiricists deny the validity of any
>>> knowledge gained through imagination, authority, tradition, or purely
>>> theoretical reasoning. They regard fields such as art, morality, religion,
>>> and
>>> metaphysics as unverifiable. The Metaphysics of Quality varies from this by
>>> saying that the values of art and morality and even religious mysticism are
>>> verifiable...".
>>>
>>>    (LILA, Chapter 8)
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>>>
>>> Marsha
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>>> On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau@comc...> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Marsha and all,
>>>>
>>>> I like the phrase "levels in existence" to describe the meaning of
>>>> evolution.  Pirsig described DQ as indefinable.  In my experience emotional
>>>> experience fits that description.  The apparatus for knowledge in a
>>>> sentient
>>>> being includes emotion and intellect.  Instinctive and definitive
>>>> characterize DQ/SQ
>>>>
>>>> Describing the apparatus of emotions interacting with thoughts as DQ/SQ is
>>>> (can you pick a word?)  I am content with Pirsig's indefinable/definable
>>>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
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>>>> On 6/1/12 11:15 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr@att....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do perceptions and the apparatus that shape them interact with
>>>>> patterns?
>>>>> Do they co-evolve?
>>>>
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