> Thats a great philosophical question Andre, "how do you know unity,oneness,whole?"
> you said we know them statically, which feels like the right direction. Quality then is the
> primary explanitory factor in our philosophical theories? and in this way we can say that
> Quality is one because it is the basis and begining?on which all explanation extends.
> But That is probably the only way I'd say that Quality is "one".
> I think that's right Ron. In Pirsig's words the MoQ is a high-quality static intellectual pattern of value because of it's economy of statement, explanatory power (where there wasn't before) and the harmony it produces. Dq/sq is as you suggest 'the basis and beginning on which all explanation extends' and I would add depends. I tend to see this in the context of Pirsig echoing Abraham Maslow on the AHP tapes when he says that we need something bigger than ourselves ( I think in response to and reaction against scientism, positivism, populism and churchy stuff).
Ant McWatt comments:
I think Ron has an interesting take on how the MOQ can be considered monistic but (as he specifically asked for my opinion!!!) I think Pirsig would hold that the MOQ goes further than just being the "primary explanatory factor in our philosophical theories". He is asserting (IMHO) that Quality comprises the whole universe. Remember the "every last bit of it" comment in Chapter 20 of ZMM? This assertion is confirmed by later correspondence with Pirsig whether that's with myself or other people.
I think if the MOQ had started (metaphysically) as some sort of dualist "Quality world/non-Quality world" then it would have just returned us to a version of the old SOM mind-matter problem that is laid out in LILA. For example, how would these two realms interact with each other? Also, if you value having a value-free realm, won't you be contradicting yourself?!
On a related note, for a good understanding of how Quality exists as two basic types (the Dynamic and static), I would recommend that you read Paul Turner's "Notes on the Tetralemma" at:
Paul is just revising this paper though, in the meantime, I have added some of his original correspondence with Pirsig about this subject. Also, at robertpirsig.org, look out for a new paper on inspirationality by John McConnell. I hope you all find it... inspirational!