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m : moq_discuss@moq.org 31 July 2005 • 7:35AM -0400

Re: MD Where is the Zen&
by MarshaV

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Erin,

This is one of my favorite Pirsig quotes.  It does validate the important
role of the individual  in making important change.  I wish all individuals
knew how much change they could enact in their own lives.

Thanks for sticking the quote on this thread.

MarshaV



At 09:57 PM 7/30/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>I wasn't sure what thread I wanted to add this to ....it seems to parallel
>a few of the threads (e.g.call for involvement in political discussions;
>role of individual) going on but think I will stick it in here.
>
>pg. 304 ZMM
>
>"I think that ti f we are going to reform the world,  and make it a better
>place to live in, thw ay to do it is not with talk about relationships of
>a political nature, which are inevitablly dualistic,  full of subjects and
>objects and their relationship to one another;  or with programs full of
>things for other people to do.  I think that kind of approach starts it at
>the end and presumes the end is the beginning.  Programs of a political
>nature are important end products of social quality that can be effective
>only if the underlying structure of social values is right.  The social
>values are right only if the individual values are right.  The place to
>improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and hands, and then
>work outward from there.  Other people can talk about how to expand the
>destiny of mankind.  I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle.  I
>think that what I have to say has more lasting value."
>
>
>Erin
>



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