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o : offtopic@delphi.org.nz 27 July 2007 • 9:25AM -0400

Re: [DUG-Offtopic] RE: [DUG] basic question
by Robert martin

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Agreed

People (generally) choose based on personal interest.

Bribes, like benefits, and interest free student loans win lots of
votes.  Labour won by about 20000 votes last election.  How many of
those came from students who couldn't not vote Labour ?

Rob Martin
Software Engineer

phone +64 03 377 0495
fax   +64 03 377 0496
web www.chreos.com

Wild Software Ltd



Neven MacEwan wrote:
> Rob
>> This current govt (and generally most) is focused to much on, what
>> will get the most votes at the next election.  There a major
>> structural changes reqd in NZ.  Generally speaking National
>> governments have been better at these things.  (yes I know about the
>> Labour govt in the 80s, but many would argue they were more like a
>> traditional National Govt).
> The unfortunate thing is its not going to happen, it will take
> decades, points to consider
>
> 1/ We would rather vote for state control (20 hours free childcare)
> than individual choice (tax cuts)
> 2/ Who would vote for a Government who threatens to take the trough
> from the pig (Beneficiarys & Civil Servants)
> 3/ You don't have to control the whole population in a democracy only 50%
>
> Neven
>>
>>
>> Rob Martin
>> Software Engineer
>>
>> phone +64 03 377 0495
>> fax   +64 03 377 0496
>> web www.chreos.com
>>
>> Wild Software Ltd
>>
>>
>>
>> Neven MacEwan wrote:
>>> David
>>>
>>> Yes I was recalling when I was 10 so 35 years, The 'Record Levels'
>>> they talk about are post float,
>>> The rocky time you refer to was probably because we continued in our
>>> post war boom mode when
>>> we needed to adapt, and coincided with another control freak leader
>>> -- Muldoon,  so now we have
>>> a lying manipulative intellectual stalinist zealot, my point was  
>>> meant to be that we  have a government
>>> that spins that 'we are living beyond our means' whilst it has
>>> chucked 50 billion at social programs in the
>>> last 10 years to no measurable effect (except commercial property
>>> owners in wellington can't build fast enough
>>> to house all the bureaucrats), we simply do not have the luxury of
>>> this (unlike some scandinavian countries, we
>>> don't have a north sea), its going to difficult to shift them (or
>>> restructure) because of the percentage of populace we
>>> have as civil servants or beneficiaries (including everyone
>>> collecting the Working for Families package)
>>>
>>> The churning (ie taxing people so you can give it back to them..ie
>>> 'Free' early child education) is so bad that
>>> in my case I pay child support (which doesn't go to my children,
>>> goes to the Gov to fund the Ex's DPB)
>>> because I am a bad citizen whilst getting Family Support (because I
>>> look after my children more than 40% of the time)
>>> because I am a good citizen (accord to Helen et al)
>>>
>>> Rave over
>>>
>>> Neven
>>>
>>>> [Switching to Offtopic]
>>>>
>>>> It's something to do with many things... but the fact is our dollar is
>>>> fairly high against most currencies at present. The exceptions are
>>>> other
>>>> countries which comparatively high interest rates (eg Australia and
>>>> the UK)
>>>> and even against them it is pretty high (just not quite at record
>>>> levels).
>>>>
>>>> As for comparing with the exchange level 30 years ago (actually
>>>> closer to 40
>>>> years ago I think you mean?) we had a pretty rocky time (think the
>>>> Titanic)
>>>> in the late 70's early-mid 80's which explains most of that
>>>> depreciation!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: delphi-bounces@delp...
>>>> [mailto:delphi-bounces@delp...] On
>>>> Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
>>>> Sent: Friday, 27 July 2007 10:37 a.m.
>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] basic question
>>>>
>>>> Its nothing to do with our economy. Its to do with the economy of the
>>>> US wher the dollar is devaluing against all other currencies.
>>>>
>>>> What's this got to do with Delphi? ... er ...
>>>>
>>>> function NewZealandDollar(USDollar: Currency) : Currency;
>>>> begin
>>>>     Randomize;
>>>>     Result := USDollar - (Random(50) + SizeOf(CullenMouth -
>>>> HelenDarkLook));
>>>> end;
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>
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