On 06/10/2012 12:12 PM, Robert Spanjaard wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:13:14 -0500, Albert Wagner wrote:
>>>> Apologies to the moderator and other list members, but although I
>>>> promised to drop this, I cannot allow such lies to go unanswered. If
>>>> the moderators want me to leave, then please stop such trash talking
>>>> from Liam and Robert.
>>>> You haven't read my posts. If you had you would not attribute the above
>>>> lies to me. I never said either thing
>>> Yes, you did. But failing to twist your way out, you just WISH you didn't.
>> Then quote accurately the post wherein I did that? Or remain a
>> self-convicted liar. Why don't you move your cowardly hateful lies to
>> private email. No audience for your pharisaic strutting?
> Private e-mail wouldn't solve anything.
Maybe. But quoting accurately, as I suggested above, would solve a lot.
You see, Robert, when you continuously make statements of opinion based
on poor reading comprehension and yet refuse to provide proof, well,
then you come off sounding like an illiterate.
>>> That is because so many here erroneously use the phrase "Gnome 3" to
>>> refer to the "Gnome 3 Shell". Unity, Gnome 3 Shell, Kubuntu, and
>>> Xubuntu all sit on top of Gnome 3. Several other distros dirivative of
>>> Ubuntu also, obviously, use Gnome 3 (not the Shell). Also, Mint has two
>>> Debian based distros that use Gnome 3, but use XFCE or Cinnamon for the
>>> desktop. SolusOS currently ships Gnome 2 and has begun development on
>>> a Gnome2 exact lookalike, but sitting on top of Gnome 3.
>>> Aw...OK. I'll do your homework for you just this once:
>>> 1) You must actually install Kubuntu.
>>> 2) Click on Muon Package Manager
>>> 3) Type GTK into search.
>>> There it is...a complete Gnome installation within a Kubuntu installation.
>> KDE and Kubuntu are not the same thing.
> Alright, I'll correct it:
> You stated that Kubuntu sits on top of Gnome.
Yes. I did. More specifically it sits on top of Gnome3, which happens
to use GTK3 as a widget machine; You might also note all of the gnome 2
stuff allowing XFCE and LXDE to be present under the name of Kubuntu also.
> You stated that if GTK is installed, Gnome is installed completely.
No. You inferred that. What I said is quoted above by you. Did you
actually perform what I said you must do? Do you have an installation
of Kubuntu? Did you click on the Muon Package Manager? When you
filtered with gtk you should have displayed most components that utilize
one of the gtk tool kits, 2 or 3. Not only are the gnome 3 components
there but also most gnome 2 components. You should also have noticed
the category in the left column "Gnome Desktop Environment". As an
exercise you might also filter for "gnome", "lxde" and "xfce". Quite a
lot of crap tucked in there under the name Kubuntu, eh? Are you
surprised to see "Gnome Desktop Environment"?
> Both statements are FALSE, and will always remain false, no matter how
> much twisting, spinning and plain lies you add to this thread.
No need for lies. The truth is adequate for people like you.
> You see? Showing other people's errors on the list IS useful, so I will
> NOT move to private e-mail. You just pointed out an error in my post,
> and I corrected it. Problem solved.
Nope. It's not "solved" until we fix your reading handicap.
> Now if only you were man enough to do the same with your own errors,
> instead of twisting and turning for hundreds of posts to cover these
> errors up.
> But you don't correct your errors. And you still fail to provide any
> information to support your statements. You still refuse to accept any
> information given to you, yet you complain when people do not give
I expect you believe that anything you say three times becomes true.
That is truely sad. Write me and we will work on your reading
comprehension out of public view.