Please do follow this carefully. There is the analyser and the thing to be analysed. We have never questioned who the analyser is. He is obviously one of the many fragments and he proceeds to analyse the whole structure of oneself. But the analyser himself, being a fragment, is conditioned. When he analyses there are several things involved. First of all, every analysis must be complete or otherwise it becomes the stone round the neck of the analyser when he begins to analyse the next incident, the next reaction. So the memory of the previous analysis increases the burden. And analysis also implies time; there are so many reactions, associations and memories to be analysed that it will take all your life. By the time you have completely analysed yourself—if that is ever possible—you are ready for the grave.
JK



sekhar

--- On Thu, 8/10/09, Joseph Polanik <jpolanik@nc.r...> wrote:


From: Joseph Polanik <jpolanik@nc.r...>
Subject: [Wittrs] The Vexing Question
To: wittrs@free...
Date: Thursday, 8 October, 2009, 4:25 PM


Neil Rickert wrote:

>SWMirsky@... wrote:

>>Neil (2): My inclination is to say that a bee is aware, but to be
>>skeptical as to whether it is conscious.

>>Me (2): Here you clearly distinguish between "awareness" and
>>"consciousness" which I have concluded is not correct. Thus, I think
>>it's now incumbent on you to say what the difference is.

>It's my impression that, at this time, there are many people who would
>deny that a dog is conscious, but there are few who would deny that a
>dog is aware.

a good point. many people would say that; but, what knowledge or
intuition (if any) are they expressing by that speech pattern?

more importantly, is the intended meaning (not necessarily the same for
all speakers) conveyed by the meaning of the words or by the fact that
they are contrasted?

if I try to say, 'my dog is conscious; but, not aware' it just
doesn't feel right. however, I could say 'my dog is conscious; but, not
self-aware'.

I could also say 'my dog is aware; but, not self-aware' just as easily
as 'my dog is aware; but, not conscious'.

so, perhaps, at least in some contexts, 'conscious' means 'self-aware'.

Joe




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